Flower Guidance Needed: Indica, Sativa & Hybrids

[utopiate]

Hi all,

When considering strains that are labelled as Hybrid it often gives a description of parentage etc but these descriptions from the producers often don't state a Indica vs Sativa percentage for e.g. Sat/Ind 60/40.

Is there anywhere I can reliably get this info?

 

[Rimmerworld]

You would have to ask your doctir its his role to find out. I never seen them reveal the % and i dont think they care enough to find out.

 

[GrownHealth]

Hi all,

When considering strains that are labelled as Hybrid it often gives a description of parentage etc but these descriptions from the producers often don't state a Indica vs Sativa percentage for e.g. Sat/Ind 60/40.

Is there anywhere I can reliably get this info?

Would be nice info to have but would literally have to be phenotype specific I'd of thought or it'll be misleading?

 

[Muiredach]

Hi all,

When considering strains that are labelled as Hybrid it often gives a description of parentage etc but these descriptions from the producers often don't state a Indica vs Sativa percentage for e.g. Sat/Ind 60/40.

Is there anywhere I can reliably get this info?

Trying to claim Indica vs. Sativa percentages authoritatively is pretty much pseudoscientific – which is why we don't do it on the main site.

No-one, at least without incredibly expensive (and never performed) genetic testing, could even being to ascertain the level of inherited genes from parent cultivars. We're talking here about plotting dominant and recessive genes expressed - then further correlating them to very specific traits, which are hard to quantify/qualify overall.

From our information pages:

At MedBud we classify products strictly based upon best known genetic lineage from the original cultivar/parent strain. In some instances we amend classifications of products with a warning provided on product pages wherever we dispute a brand's own classification. When prescribing, clinicians should follow the prescription label, and not MedBud's more stringent definitions which are provided for better oversight on potential genetic lineage.

In all instances attempting to treat Indica or Sativa as being reliably indicative of any particular medicinal effect is bad practice. From more sedating Sativas, to more energetic Indicas, any notion of implied effect based solely on this classification is strongly warned against. We do believe as many claim that some effects/traits are displayed more predominantly in either category, but this cannot generally be depended upon as indicative for any particular medication/cultivar/strain.

There have been instances of brands labelling medications incorrectly, for example a Sativa Hybrid labelled as an Indica. We strongly urge all brands not to attempt to reclassify cultivars/strains themselves, and depend solely on genetic lineage as is practised here at MedBud. While these classifications cannot be fully depended upon, it's important their usage is rooted in more accurate genetic analysis, and not any brand's particular notion of 'what feels like what.'

"There are biochemically distinct strains of Cannabis, but the Sativa/Indica distinction as commonly applied in the lay literature is total nonsense and an exercise in futility. One cannot in any way currently guess the biochemical content of a given Cannabis plant based on its height, branching, or leaf morphology. The degree of interbreeding/hybridization is such that only a biochemical assay tells a potential consumer or scientist what is really in the plant. It is essential that future commerce allows complete and accurate cannabinoid and terpenoid profiles to be available." — Dr. Ethan B. Russo, MD, from The Cannabis Sativa versus Cannabis Indica Debate

 

[utopiate]

yeah it was pretty common to label strains with this info years ago especially at seedbanks. Well I'm learning a lot since coming here which is really appreciated. I've generally gone by this general Ind/Sat as I generally found it to be true. Hybridisation has altered the state of play significantly it would seem. I was looking at a site that categorises strains by symptoms and did notice that it didn't follow this basic Ind/Sat perspective.

I have to admit to being nervous about considering strains I've never given a second look due to this perspective. It can mean the difference between a good and bad month for me.

 

[Moon]

Hi all,

When considering strains that are labelled as Hybrid it often gives a description of parentage etc but these descriptions from the producers often don't state a Indica vs Sativa percentage for e.g. Sat/Ind 60/40.

Is there anywhere I can reliably get this info?

I have been wanting the same info, putting the flower name into google and visiting a few sites I usually get the answer (not sure how accurate). I have a couple of Hybrids this month, one is Gelato T19 which I found is meant to be Indica 55 Sativa 45, this feels about right on this one, whereas my NYC Diesel is listed as Sativa 60 Indica 40 and this makes no sense as its far more relaxing than the weak gelato. Because of this i am avoiding the Hybrids unless I read good reviews from other users here. I am sticking with Indica and Indica Hybrid as this is what I need, I run a mile from the Sativa jitters.

 

[BlackSheepVegan]

yeah it was pretty common to label strains with this info years ago especially at seedbanks. Well I'm learning a lot since coming here which is really appreciated. I've generally gone by this general Ind/Sat as I generally found it to be true. Hybridisation has altered the state of play significantly it would seem. I was looking at a site that categorises strains by symptoms and did notice that it didn't follow this basic Ind/Sat perspective.

I have to admit to being nervous about considering strains I've never given a second look due to this perspective. It can mean the difference between a good and bad month for me.

I have absolutely gone on this same journey as you are.

I’ve paid little attention to the changing terminology etc really until being prescribed rather than BM. Now I’m having to figure out which terpenes, and in which combinations work well for me.

I tend to have one wild card strain each month. And it’s honestly been a bit amazing. Turns out what I always have gone for from my plug isn’t the best for my needs, because I went for racy Sativas to help my ADHD, when actually they’ve done the opposite a lot of times.

My point is, try and watch some Info about the genetics and landrace strain genetics, then get excited at a whole new playground ask any of us to if we can help you try and narrow down what really tickles your pickle

Drs are definately worth asking but be mindful of any conflicts of interest with whichever brands they produce themselves….