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[Nick March]

Hey guys,

Just thought id duck in and say Hi, great website. Been on the medical scripts for oil for a few years but recently started using flower again so now with Mamedica® and had my monthly usage upped to 120grams if I need, so lots of choice available.

Will do some postings on my thoughts on what I’ve tried so far from the medical dispensary’s, most have been positive to actually very good. Some, not so.

I know my strains well, I’ve had quite a bit of my work published in various books so I feel quite uniquely qualified to talk about a lot of these. Spent a good few years in early 2000s working in and out of Amsterdam in the scene for various breeders.

 

[GrownHealth]

Welcome to the forum @Nick March and reading your post it looks like you have a lot of knowledge on Cannabis matters and will be able to add a lot to discussions which would be a welcome addition .
Once again welcome .

 

[Dooby Doo]

Welcome @Nick March enjoy your stay here, anything you want to join in on, feel free

 

[MigraineMan]

Welcome to the asylum.

 

[Nick March]

Thanks for the welcome guys. And yes, I’m currently working to consult on a few med facilities around Europe. I have a good level of knowledge from facility build out, plant sciences and chem / biology. Happy to help and answer any questions people may have in regards to this industry. A lot is behind scary NDAs but anything I’m allowed to share, I will. Just know there is some very exciting things coming to uk medical soon.

 

[Nick March]

Welcome to the forum @Nick March and reading your post it looks like you have a lot of knowledge on Cannabis matters and will be able to add a lot to discussions which would be a welcome addition .
Once again welcome .

Great avatar. I own a couple of pieces of art by Joe Gilgun.

 

[MigraineMan]

I have a QQ for you, understand if above your pay grade Is there a reason we (the UK) import our MC when we are a net exporter of MC?

 

[Nick March]

I have a QQ for you, understand if above your pay grade Is there a reason we (the UK) import our MC when we are a net exporter of MC?

Sure thing. I can talk on most of this. Ok, whilst the uk can essentially export uk grown medical cannabis flower, I’m unaware of any companies that have been granted a license to do so, so how does this make us the biggest exporter of medical cannabis… products … because we make, license and sell GW epidiolex and sativex, to the world. This account for a huge amount of product, but it’s not flower.

Why do we import so much flower, well, there is a lot of it about in Canada and we are a market that will take a lot of stuff that customers there are now bored of. Secondly we have the strictest regulatory rules, so a lot of products that may fail in Canada can get sent here and be irradiated, but mainly it’s down to how the process has been in the way MHRA made it hard to acquire licenses for cultivation and production / processing, that has come A lot easier now.

I’m In the process of trying to set up a uk medical facility. The Uk games needs to be improved. I was offered work at glass farms and know a few people there. At least their stuff isn’t being irradiated like dalgety.

The one thing I get most from people who already run facilities is why are you trying to do in uk and get stuck with just medical uk market, I say, because the uk medical patients deserve better, and I know I can deliver.

Basically I have to fully fund and build out my facility, get it all operational, then apply for licenses which are not expensive. Whole process is taking about 3-5 years. Currently at the point of finding suitable brown field sites. Can’t go in to much more detail on that.

 

[MigraineMan]

Thanks for providing a detailed response, my understanding was that GW still needed flower to manufacture their products, so wondered why they couldn't repurpose a facility? Maybe if flower was on the NHS the government might care, but I guess as we are paying privately for it, the fact that they are adding to the carbon debt etc is neither here nor there

Do you know much about GW and Dave Watson's (RIP) involvement/their use of his work?

 

[Moon]

Welcome to a lovely community @Nick March looking forward to picking your brains!

 

[MigraineMan]

I would also like to wish you every success in your endeavours.

When you have time could you maybe point me in the right direction to find out more about getting a schedule II license etc and the growing requirements et al. I wonder if half the average smoke/smoke that does not have the desired effect is due to the laws on timings etc as I seem to see a lot of stuff with more clear heads than amber ones.

 

[Nick March]

Thanks for providing a detailed response, my understanding was that GW still needed flower to manufacture their products, so wondered why they couldn't repurpose a facility? Maybe if flower was on the NHS the government might care, but I guess as we are paying privately for it, the fact that they are adding to the carbon debt etc is neither here nor there

Do you know much about GW and Dave Watson's (RIP) involvement/their use of his work?

Yes, GW grow a lot of flower to produce their product. But the product their sell is not flower, and they will not go into producing flower for medical market as it will return way less money for them. Currently they makes a fortune doing what they are doing.

And yes this is a terrible industry on resources and unsustainable. Part of my plans include a 100000 sq ft solar farm.

 

[Nick March]

I would also like to wish you every success in your endeavours.

When you have time could you maybe point me in the right direction to find out more about getting a schedule II license etc and the growing requirements et al. I wonder if half the average smoke/smoke that does not have the desired effect is due to the laws on timings etc as I seem to see a lot of stuff with more clear heads than amber ones.

I’d advice you drum up a few million of capital investment first then start looking into it. I was lucky to be offered nearly 3m in investment which allows me to buy the site and then build it then apply for bank loads as have the capital against it, then build out the whole facility to standards and hope it passes. If it doesn’t you get like a mot check list to complete. But until a few years ago you already had to have one part of the license to get the other part, now you can get the whole facility built to spec and then get licensed.

 

[MigraineMan]

I’d advice you drum up a few million of capital investment first then start looking into it. I was lucky to be offered nearly 3m in investment which allows me to buy the site and then build it then apply for bank loads as have the capital against it, then build out the whole facility to standards and hope it passes. If it doesn’t you get like a mot check list to complete. But until a few years ago you already had to have one part of the license to get the other part, now you can get the whole facility built to spec and then get licensed.

I was more interested in the actual requirements, as I said I wanted to try to understand why we see premturely harvested stuff all the time, I heard there were strict rules on how long you can be in flower so wanted to clarify/validate this, not to worry.

 

[Nick March]

Ah I’ll try and dig that paper out when I get a chance, but essentially there is no limit on how long you flower for, but the longer you are in flower for the less time you can be productive for, if something can be passable at day 56 and it doesn’t add a huge amount of yeild by running it to 63 or 70 days, you have just save a huge amount of inputs, and probably allowed for 1 or 2 more runs a year, it’s all down to kpi,

Also, the longer you are in flower, the more likely you are going to run into an issue that could make you fail testing. So it’s a fine balance. Another thing is, due to what I was saying before about how licenses were only issued to people with previous other licenses, this means a lot of growers and facilities are run by people that don’t really care about cannabis, or now how to grow it properly. A lot of them take on consultants that claim they know what they are doing but don’t. Or are forcing a great work crew that can grow great cannabis to work an sop that has been adapted from growing cucumbers or alike and doesn’t work well,

Other specifics I don’t think companies will be happy about me going into in public. But put it this way, the company I work with CannaVigia for complience etc, have over 120 customers world wide, non in uk and I’m the first that has come to them from the growers / love of cannabis passion rather than the green money that can be made. That should tell you all you need to know.

 

[utopiate]

Welcome @Nick March

 

[node]

Hello @Nick March + welcome mate

 

[Delta 9]

Sure thing. I can talk on most of this. Ok, whilst the uk can essentially export uk grown medical cannabis flower, I’m unaware of any companies that have been granted a license to do so, so how does this make us the biggest exporter of medical cannabis… products … because we make, license and sell GW epidiolex and sativex, to the world. This account for a huge amount of product, but it’s not flower.

Why do we import so much flower, well, there is a lot of it about in Canada and we are a market that will take a lot of stuff that customers there are now bored of. Secondly we have the strictest regulatory rules, so a lot of products that may fail in Canada can get sent here and be irradiated, but mainly it’s down to how the process has been in the way MHRA made it hard to acquire licenses for cultivation and production / processing, that has come A lot easier now.

I’m In the process of trying to set up a uk medical facility. The Uk games needs to be improved. I was offered work at glass farms and know a few people there. At least their stuff isn’t being irradiated like dalgety.

The one thing I get most from people who already run facilities is why are you trying to do in uk and get stuck with just medical uk market, I say, because the uk medical patients deserve better, and I know I can deliver.

Basically I have to fully fund and build out my facility, get it all operational, then apply for licenses which are not expensive. Whole process is taking about 3-5 years. Currently at the point of finding suitable brown field sites. Can’t go in to much more detail on that.

The reason you describe with importing what fails in canada and has to be irradiated and sent to uk should be 1 of the main points gathered for patients to grow our own meds especially coming from someone like yourself in the industry.

How do you feel about cryocuring cannabis would that be something you would be doing?

We do deserve ALOT better and i hope you can deliver decent meds at a decent price for patients.

Would grow our own meds especially patients on benefits to give them a better standard of living something you would support or against.

Would you be running legacy cuts if so what ones

Welcome to to the forum Nick

 

[Nick March]

The reason you describe with importing what fails in canada and has to be irradiated and sent to uk should be 1 of the main points gathered for patients to grow our own meds especially coming from someone like yourself in the industry.

How do you feel about cryocuring cannabis would that be something you would be doing?

We do deserve ALOT better and i hope you can deliver decent meds at a decent price for patients.

Would grow our own meds especially patients on benefits to give them a better standard of living something you would support or against.

Would you be running legacy cuts if so what ones

Welcome to to the forum Nick

Hey man, thanks for the welcome,

I am 10000000% in support of home growers. I am one, well not any more as I can’t really, well not at home, but yes I totally support and help with growing advice. I’m about to start a series with a big brand of grow room automation to help bring advanced grow knowledge to the public. On a YouTube channel. Mostly content that you currently have to pay £100 a month plus on Patreon for. So yes I’m all about helping the small grower. I have no want to run a multi million dollar company. I won’t be, I just want to grow cannabis, legally and a lot of it. So this is the only way I can do it. I have also been offered the potential to help run one of the legal facilities in Holland and that is for rec. so I’m just all about cannabis really. The plant, not the financial reward it can bring. As I can say, after 30 years I have nothing to show for it… if you stay as legal as you can in this industry, you stay poor, very poor. But I want that to change.

And yes, I’m all about legacy strains.

My mum library is old.

Chem d, Chem 4, ECSD RIRI, loads of ogs, pre 98 bubbas. Got all the new stuff also, but I’m an old head so I just love the old school stuff. I got so excited to see 4C Labs with ultrasour. Mk ultra x ecsd, bring it on, but it’s ultrasour haze, dam it, still nice and well worth the money. Although I’m told it smokes bad. The only time I smoke is when my room is too dark, I over fill my flower pot vape and it combusts. Bloody horrible esp when it’s like the last pull and all terpenes done. Lol

 

[Delta 9]

Hey man, thanks for the welcome,

I am 10000000% in support of home growers. I am one, well not any more as I can’t really, well not at home, but yes I totally support and help with growing advice. I’m about to start a series with a big brand of grow room automation to help bring advanced grow knowledge to the public. On a YouTube channel. Mostly content that you currently have to pay £100 a month plus on Patreon for. So yes I’m all about helping the small grower. I have no want to run a multi million dollar company. I won’t be, I just want to grow cannabis, legally and a lot of it. So this is the only way I can do it. I have also been offered the potential to help run one of the legal facilities in Holland and that is for rec. so I’m just all about cannabis really. The plant, not the financial reward it can bring. As I can say, after 30 years I have nothing to show for it… if you stay as legal as you can in this industry, you stay poor, very poor. But I want that to change.

And yes, I’m all about legacy strains.

My mum library is old.

Chem d, Chem 4, ECSD RIRI, loads of ogs, pre 98 bubbas. Got all the new stuff also, but I’m an old head so I just love the old school stuff. I got so excited to see 4C Labs with ultrasour. Mk ultra x ecsd, bring it on, but it’s ultrasour haze, dam it, still nice and well worth the money. Although I’m told it smokes bad. The only time I smoke is when my room is too dark, I over fill my flower pot vape and it combusts. Bloody horrible esp when it’s like the last pull and all terpenes done. Lol

Hopefully the company you work for has the same outlook as yourself and will look forward to see what products are released by you especially with the legacy cuts you have.

Its sweet to hear that all your products will be non irradiated since you made the comparisson glass v dalgety irradiated v non then i expect your view be the same with your product but what is your view on cryocure do you think its a better product for the consumer or just a corner cut to save time.

As you can see loads of patients including me and you are consuming irradiated 4C Labs product but i dont fancy having some of that polystyrene product but thats just me.

Nice to see you have the old school stuff and old school yourself but hopefully by the time you build out your project 3-5 years then we are all allowed to home grow and watching your YouTube channel.

Passionate patient rather than coming across what might seem negative but with growers like yourself coming into the market then i am hopeful for uk medical to be as proper as other countries with some good terpenes left on the bud lol