Global Cannabis use disorder 10 times more common in people living with depression

Meta-analysis of over three million people reveals a bidirectional link between cannabis use disorder and major depressive disorder.

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[NuggetofGreen]

or people with depression are 10x more likely to self medicate with cannabis?

 

[OldBloke]

or people with depression are 10x more likely to self medicate with cannabis?

100% agree, I scanned it, but I felt the research did not demonstrate causality merely correlation. aka if something exists at the same time or place as an event it does not neccassarily mean it caused or had anything to do with that event. The research needs to provide strong empirical evidnce that it is causal.

Correlation does not imply causation. Some research falls into that category of failure. Perhaps this one does too. Any thoughts from anyone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

 

[Delta 9]

Clinical edndocannabinoid deficiency contributing to gut dysbiosis or gut dysbiosis contributing to CECD , exogenous cannabinoids not a bad thing as long as not THC overusage but sort gut and ecs. No adverse effects by using THC with psychobiotics esp with CBD added insteads of coming off THC and on ssris. Fix the gut to enhance cannabis experience. Does gut dysbiosis cause depression , does THC cause gut dysbiosis.

looking at jungian archetypes and microbiome if you scroll down you will see to sort depression some bacteria and precursers to ecs ligands so looks like CECD could be fixed with probiotics and could continue THC usage with gut tests.

https://www.fearlessfig.com/blog/ju...ing-emotional-patterns-to-microbial-dysbiosis

 

[OldBloke]

@Delta 9 agree, there is a confirmed direct link between gut health and brain health, the Vagus Nerve, mine is shot due to Long Covid dysautonomia, I know the feelings 8(

 

[Fiddlesticks]

Clinical edndocannabinoid deficiency contributing to gut dysbiosis or gut dysbiosis contributing to CECD , exogenous cannabinoids not a bad thing as long as not THC overusage but sort gut and ecs. No adverse effects by using THC with psychobiotics esp with CBD added insteads of coming off THC and on ssris. Fix the gut to enhance cannabis experience. Does gut dysbiosis cause depression , does THC cause gut dysbiosis.

looking at jungian archetypes and microbiome if you scroll down you will see to sort depression some bacteria and precursers to ecs ligands so looks like CECD could be fixed with probiotics and could continue THC usage with gut tests.

https://www.fearlessfig.com/blog/ju...ing-emotional-patterns-to-microbial-dysbiosis

No one teaches Jung these days.
Its considered bad science
I love Jung.

There are some interesting court cases going on regarding the medical efficacy of cannabis in the USA. Looking to purely classify it as recreational.
Whilst its medical properties are undoubted to me, having it touted as a panacea for most ailments is not correct and potentially damaging.

I feel it has a much stronger recreational advantage over traditional remedies like alcohol but is struggling to justify itself in the medical space.
We badly need peer reviewed data which we should have now in abundance from the decriminalised markets (USA, Canada etc)

 

[Delta 9]

No one teaches Jung these days.
Its considered bad science
I love Jung.

There are some interesting court cases going on regarding the medical efficacy of cannabis in the USA. Looking to purely classify it as recreational.
Whilst its medical properties are undoubted to me, having it touted as a panacea for most ailments is not correct and potentially damaging.

I feel it has a much stronger recreational advantage over traditional remedies like alcohol but is struggling to justify itself in the medical space.
We badly need peer reviewed data which we should have now in abundance from the decriminalised markets (USA, Canada etc)

Jung did lose his mind a way but wrote about the mind from lived experience and psychoanalysis maybe not getting peer reviewed but his work and insight shouldnt be ignored.
I thought the gut and jungian archetypes or what science can say personality traits linked to gut dysbiosis are much the same.

Is that the court cases where side effects possible side effects was not listed. Like could cause heart issues, for me i know THC is anti convulsant but THC can be both anti and pro convulsant so it has to be listed may cause seizures lol .

Since you can get a deficiency in endocannabioids as dr ethan russo believes and i do too then it should fall under a nutraceutical for supplementation , Health food with psychoactive properties. Pill form pharma disty generic white box is coming. Its underfunded for specific reasons.

 

[GreenRed]

COD is a humbug!

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No seriously, without the paperwork and legal medication, we all very well fall into the COD bucket. Just because we're medicating.

I'm sure if one is prescribed 2 Xanaxes a day, they don't consider that person having XOD.

 

[Fiddlesticks]

Jung did lose his mind a way but wrote about the mind from lived experience and psychoanalysis maybe not getting peer reviewed but his work and insight shouldnt be ignored.

I have listened to all the Jung lectures (even the tavistock ones..) And read all his books. He is one of the few writers in history who have truly helped me to understand myself and others.
I am hugely indebted to him for the work he did and was happy that you referenced him!

Is that the court cases where side effects possible side effects was not listed. Like could cause heart issues, for me i know THC is anti convulsant but THC can be both anti and pro convulsant so it has to be listed may cause seizures lol .

Since you can get a deficiency in endocannabioids as dr ethan russo believes and i do too then it should fall under a nutraceutical for supplementation , Health food with psychoactive properties. Pill form pharma disty generic white box is coming.

Yes it was the same court cases but it seems to be being used to attack only the medicinal cannabis market. There is a huge wealth of knowledge such as you have around endocannaboids and its a shame that as a nerd that I am, science is not at the forefront of discoverys and that we are very slow to innovate.

Its underfunded for specific reasons.

Thats the main point I guess and we all know it.

 

[terpzman]

balance is key. You don't need to read anyone else's work to understand yourself

 

[Fiddlesticks]

balance is key. You don't need to read anyone else's work to understand yourself

Depends what level of understanding you are searching for.
Anyhow to bring it back to the topic There is more data out of Germany as they have been running extensive medical cannabis programs with far closer monitoring of outcomes.
I hope to see some more positive articles with research.

 

[Delta 9]

I have listened to all the Jung lectures (even the tavistock ones..) And read all his books. He is one of the few writers in history who have truly helped me to understand myself and others.
I am hugely indebted to him for the work he did and was happy that you referenced him!

Yes it was the same court cases but it seems to be being used to attack only the medicinal cannabis market. There is a huge wealth of knowledge such as you have around endocannaboids and its a shame that as a nerd that I am, science is not at the forefront of discoverys and that we are very slow to innovate.

Thats the main point I guess and we all know it.

Aye gd insight with jung
Too much money in it for it not b a pharma or setup to fail.

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balance is key. You don't need to read anyone else's work to understand yourself

When you smoke the herb, it reveals you to yourself.