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UK Government Petition: Introduce 'Grow Your Own' Laws for Legal Medical Cannabis Patients (CBPM)

Once again we've launched a petition to allow patients to grow their own medical cannabis. Last time around we achieved over 10,000 signatures and forced a government response.

Click Here to Sign - please remember to accept the email confirmation link.

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At 10,000 signatures we'll again receive a government response, this time addressing a change in licensing/scheduling directly.

If we can get to 100,000 signatures, our petition will have to be openly discussed in parliament.
 
So after a month of waiting I chased my Irish doctor again to get an e-mail saying the same as I told CB1 Medical...... I have not been in Ireland since they last issued my records so please use the ones I already shared. In the mean time Curaleaf formulary is actually decreasing (down to 38 of 97 in stock now) and there is nothing that I haven't tried/know won't work for me. What choice does that leave me? Hobsons...

I feel your pain (more so than ever now I am officially redundant but not able to search for work as in appeal process). The whole situation needs to change and soon, or, I am just going to up sticks to a country that is more focussed on patients and eradicating the black market than putting profits in its OxBridge buddies pockets.
There has got to be a way to unravel the SCR problem ,is there no way you can request it from Curaleaf or is that a non starter? As they can't just leave you in the lurch like this but it does seem a mess ,The problems I had were when changing clinics is I had to wait for 2 weeks at the beginning because of my doctors and then my new clinic still had to back and forth with them to get further info -is there no way way a new clinic will do this for you ? Or have they just said you've got to get it ?
 
Once again we've launched a petition to allow patients to grow their own medical cannabis. Last time around we achieved over 10,000 signatures and forced a government response.

Click Here to Sign - please remember to accept the email confirmation link.

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At 10,000 signatures we'll again receive a government response, this time addressing a change in licensing/scheduling directly.

If we can get to 100,000 signatures, our petition will have to be openly discussed in parliament.
What was the response to the last 10,000 ?
 
8000 signatures at 420 and only gathered a few sigs over that weekend so that needs to be looked at.

Gazebo pasting table and petition at every 420 event next year.

A poll set up on this site and keep polling patients and highlight what the patients think as regards standards and being able to gyo or co op.

We have the biggest voice as patients and best site to use patient data so lets take advantage.
 
The full government UK Home Office response to our #GrowYourOwn petition for CBPM patients:

Homegrown cannabis is not a safe or appropriate substitute for regulated Cannabis Based Products for Medicinal Use and there are no plans to change the law to permit its use.

The Government sympathises with patients suffering from painful and debilitating conditions and can understand their desire to seek the best and most affordable treatment available. However, homegrown cannabis cannot be substituted for Cannabis Based Products for Medicinal Use (CBPMs) and we have no plans to allow this.

In line with the advice of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, Cannabis-Based Products for Medicinal Use were rescheduled to Schedule 2 under the Misuse of Drugs Regulations 2001 (the 2001 Regulations) on 1 November 2018. If the CBPM product is unlicensed (i.e. without a marketing authorisation granted in accordance with the medicines legislation applicable in the UK) and is being ordered otherwise than for a clinical trial, the decision to order/prescribe the medicine can only be made by a doctor on the Specialist Register of the General Medical Council.

The law itself does not restrict which conditions CBPMs may be prescribed for and there is no legal impediment to specialist doctors prescribing CBPMs where clinically appropriate and in the best interests of patients. It is important to remember that only products meeting the definition of a CBPM, in accordance with medicines legislation, were rescheduled.

Products not meeting this definition (other than cannabis-based medicines that have received marketing authorisation and have been separately scheduled) remain Schedule 1 drugs under the 2001 Regulations. Schedule 1 drugs cannot ordinarily be possessed or supplied except under a Home Office licence. Cannabis cannot be cultivated except under a Home Office licence and the Home Office does not grant licences to grow cannabis for personal consumption.

Expert advice does not support the substitute of home grown or street cannabis for CBPMs. In July 2018 the then UK Government’s Chief Medical Adviser, Professor Dame Sally Davies considered the available evidence of the therapeutic and medicinal benefits of cannabis-based products in “Cannabis Scheduling Review Part 1: The therapeutic and medicinal benefits of Cannabis based products – a review of recent evidence” (https://gov.uk/government/publications/cannabis-scheduling-review-part-1…) and concluded that:

“Cannabis has many active chemicals and only cannabis or derivatives produced for medical use can be assumed to have the correct concentrations and ratios. Using other forms, such as grown or street cannabis, as medicine for therapeutic benefit is potentially dangerous. The evidence that cannabis and some of its derivatives can be addictive and harmful has been known for some time and is not disputed by recent science, so I believe the reasons it is a controlled drug in the UK stand.” (Paragraph 1.3)

“This review covers only medical cannabis and cannabis based medicinal products designed specifically for medicinal use. Grown cannabis has over 100 active drugs, which can have a wide variety of concentrations and ratios creating different and often severe side effects… Because different forms of grown cannabis have different concentrations and ratios of these drugs, grown or street cannabis cannot safely be substituted for medicinal cannabis.” (Paragraph 2.4)

While this legislative change enabled access by prescription, by or under the direction of a specialist clinician, it did not change the processes that ensure NHS funding is prioritised for medicines proven safe and clinically and cost effective – that is medicines, such as the cannabis-based medicines Sativex and Epidyolex, that are approved by the MHRA (MHRA) and the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE).

NICE states that more research is the key to building the evidence base to support the use of CBPMs. Until we see robust evidence on the safety, quality, and efficacy of these products, clinicians will remain reluctant to prescribe them and the NHS will not be able to make decisions on routine funding. That is why we continue to encourage manufacturers of unlicensed products to conduct research to support the use of their products and seek regulatory approval, and why we offer scientific and research advice from MHRA and the National Institute for Health and Care Research (NIHR).

The barrier to accessing these products on the NHS is one of evidence, not government regulation, and the Department of Health and Social Care is working closely with regulatory, research and NHS partners to establish clinical trials to test the safety and efficacy of these products.

We'll have further comments and feedback after proper review and consideration.
 
Professor Dame Sally Davies > a cursory look into her shows shes 100% establishment and she will say what shes told to say. Its about money, nothing else - she just cant say that.
 
No one was expecting a miracle but i`m glad they have went into a bit of detail that can be pulled apart and shows where we are. Petitions and gathering proof will be the way to go so what petiton now that they think cbpm are the best product on the planet.

A petition to change the standards of this so called medicine ie seeded , mold in some , short datred stock like cookie why did that come in late to uk with that date lol f off.

Time to project kids having seizures onto parliament with (not condoning anything illegal) lol. I would film mine but wont have same effect and i wont get NHS prescription so GIVE THE KIDS IT. We can get meds here they cant and have to pay a fortune for.


What they call medicines is a very long list of side effects including death lol this isn`t medicne you crazy fools and if cannabis had those could be side effects then i wouldn`t touch it and 1 of the reasons i went for cannabis over epilepsy so called meds that have some crazy side effects and addictive like gabapentin lol created a monster with that pill but cant have cannabis cos they say its addictive but great that they mention there is over 100 active drugs in cannabis and cbpm has about fkn 2 THC CBD dont talk terpenes n minor cannabinoids cos there is no science on it yet lol way way behind the times.

We are importing from a country who smokes it and importing from a country who has home grows both going against the evidence

How can patients on benefits or struggling financialy have any subsidy of some sort like canada has

Time for cannabis specialists to come in and not just specialists of conditions who have read some stuff about cannabinoids.

Epilepsy worldwide was used to make people in the industry an absolute fortune n thats where the CBD industry was really born from.

Changing standards and holding ALL to account for bad product should be petitioned and should stop the complaining in here lol better to act than complain.

So legalisation is only way for home grow to happen due to a doctor having to prescribe a medicine so can we call it CBM as it is and thats where we need to be going to leaving out prescribing.

So evidence and peer reviewed stuff and will see what r c clarke has researchwise seen him on hash church yesterday and was excellent 4 hours of knowledge and history and wee can gather it all here.

Does CBPM`s being an unlicensed medicine mean that they dont put side effects there or i have on seen may make you feel sleepy drowsey dont operat e machinery but nothing like those so called NHS medicines that even say can cause death with their book of side effects , so what are the side effcects and would they say addictive as they say they have proved.

Soz for rant lol
 
No one was expecting a miracle but i`m glad they have went into a bit of detail that can be pulled apart and shows where we are. Petitions and gathering proof will be the way to go so what petiton now that they think cbpm are the best product on the planet.

A petition to change the standards of this so called medicine ie seeded , mold in some , short datred stock like cookie why did that come in late to uk with that date lol f off.

Time to project kids having seizures onto parliament with (not condoning anything illegal) lol. I would film mine but wont have same effect and i wont get NHS prescription so GIVE THE KIDS IT. We can get meds here they cant and have to pay a fortune for.


What they call medicines is a very long list of side effects including death lol this isn`t medicne you crazy fools and if cannabis had those could be side effects then i wouldn`t touch it and 1 of the reasons i went for cannabis over epilepsy so called meds that have some crazy side effects and addictive like gabapentin lol created a monster with that pill but cant have cannabis cos they say its addictive but great that they mention there is over 100 active drugs in cannabis and cbpm has about fkn 2 THC CBD dont talk terpenes n minor cannabinoids cos there is no science on it yet lol way way behind the times.

We are importing from a country who smokes it and importing from a country who has home grows both going against the evidence

How can patients on benefits or struggling financialy have any subsidy of some sort like canada has

Time for cannabis specialists to come in and not just specialists of conditions who have read some stuff about cannabinoids.

Epilepsy worldwide was used to make people in the industry an absolute fortune n thats where the CBD industry was really born from.

Changing standards and holding ALL to account for bad product should be petitioned and should stop the complaining in here lol better to act than complain.

So legalisation is only way for home grow to happen due to a doctor having to prescribe a medicine so can we call it CBM as it is and thats where we need to be going to leaving out prescribing.

So evidence and peer reviewed stuff and will see what r c clarke has researchwise seen him on hash church yesterday and was excellent 4 hours of knowledge and history and wee can gather it all here.

Does CBPM`s being an unlicensed medicine mean that they dont put side effects there or i have on seen may make you feel sleepy drowsey dont operat e machinery but nothing like those so called NHS medicines that even say can cause death with their book of side effects , so what are the side effcects and would they say addictive as they say they have proved.

Soz for rant lol
Well said, I wanted to say something on the same lines as you put it. I was still digesting the reply back to growing your own.
Hypocritical reply, I should say.
I can see the HS side if it was allowed for people to grow their own, I'd be ok and a lot of other people would be competent to grow our own. Imagine all the fires ect that may happen, because someone got it wrong.
We need the docs who prescribe and all involved to come together regarding the pricing, for all to be able to afford our prescriptions and lead better lives because we could spend money on other things to make our lives more comfortable, especially the Disabled!!
 
No one was expecting a miracle but i`m glad they have went into a bit of detail that can be pulled apart and shows where we are. Petitions and gathering proof will be the way to go so what petiton now that they think cbpm are the best product on the planet.

Yes I suppse it shows that things have shifted from:

'drugs are bad mkay'

To

'drugs are bad when my mates aren't making loads of money off them'

*Insert bullshit reasons here why that would be the case*
 
Yes I suppse it shows that things have shifted from:

'drugs are bad mkay'

To

'drugs are bad when my mates aren't making loads of money off them'

*Insert bullshit reasons here why that would be the case*
When they had to go into detail as they did then i am glad to see that instead of a very short generic response to me it shows how they are thinking.

Its shows if we are gonna rest on laurals or fight like evryone else done , It wasn`t a case of of getting it handed to us on a plate and being naive in thinking that they would say on you go grow your own , anyone whos followed it all in usa knows this is a fight regarding patient organisations and lobbyists.

Patients out of time way back i thought was an amazing movement and i learned alot from mid 2000`s but i learned it from dr geoffrey guy n others of gw pharma lol who were educating the patients just before sativex came in, think its the 25 anniversary since sativex trials 20 fkn 5 years !!

Look back there was alot of work done with that org and not just a case of handing in a petition as i said it shows where WE are and what needs to be done , yes testimonials and would be great to have specialists speak etc.

Charlotte figi changed it all in usa R.I.P. Kid.

I really get your point but lank
 
Well said, I wanted to say something on the same lines as you put it. I was still digesting the reply back to growing your own.
Hypocritical reply, I should say.
I can see the HS side if it was allowed for people to grow their own, I'd be ok and a lot of other people would be competent to grow our own. Imagine all the fires ect that may happen, because someone got it wrong.
We need the docs who prescribe and all involved to come together regarding the pricing, for all to be able to afford our prescriptions and lead better lives because we could spend money on other things to make our lives more comfortable, especially the Disabled!!
Spot on doobs , I just came on seen post n ranted lol

Data gather germany fire stats from homegrows after 2 years say and see what it is. Give us r&d license and we can gather data for them and install any sprinklers , they can use me for case study if they want lol.

Thcv with beta caryophylene next big diet drug you heard it here first looking at the science of both but uk way behind that, we all know thcv is appetite suppresant and beta caryohpylene dietry cannabinoid so pairing them would be 100 x better than fkn ozempic etc with yes crazy side effects !!

With what your saying ragrding pricing this is wild west shit i just want to know how they price it. Back in the day you paid more for pure Sativas cos of time flowering but cant figure the pricing here out its just free market capitalism but a monopolised industry.

It would help me out alot to have financial burden eased and we need to look at ways to make subsidy happen even if it takes a gofundme sad that we would have to beg but this is the least things we should do to start us having a bit more freedom. patients need help and protection.
 
Spot on doobs , I just came on seen post n ranted lol

Data gather germany fire stats from homegrows after 2 years say and see what it is. Give us r&d license and we can gather data for them and install any sprinklers , they can use me for case study if they want lol.

Thcv with beta caryophylene next big diet drug you heard it here first looking at the science of both but uk way behind that, we all know thcv is appetite suppresant and beta caryohpylene dietry cannabinoid so pairing them would be 100 x better than fkn ozempic etc with yes crazy side effects !!

With what your saying ragrding pricing this is wild west shit i just want to know how they price it. Back in the day you paid more for pure Sativas cos of time flowering but cant figure the pricing here out its just free market capitalism but a monopolised industry.

It would help me out alot to have financial burden eased and we need to look at ways to make subsidy happen even if it takes a gofundme sad that we would have to beg but this is the least things we should do to start us having a bit more freedom. patients need help and protection.
Well said mate, we should all now aim for this!
 
I wonder, because I don't know the full ins and outs, will the Medical Flower that's been grown in Europe come down in price after the Trade deal with Europe?
 
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