Flower 4C Labs Craft Select SZ T17 Sudz

[GrownHealth]

I got this 2 weeks ago (BN: A296220 - TriCity) and I'm really not happy with it. One of the strains on my prescription was out of stock so one of the salesmen at my clinic gave me the spiel about Sudz. He told me it used to be £9 a gram and is now down to £5.50 yet its getting rave reviews etc. In fairness to him I checked YouTube and here and its very positive about this strain so I ordered it as a replacement.

It looked and smelled fine but had zero effect. I'm not expecting much from a 17% THC strain but I do expect to feel something. I vaped 4 grams of this in a few hours and it didn't do anything for me and really should have, especially with it being Indica Hybrid as Indicas are what work best for my condition.

I appreciate I'm in the minority with this opinion on it but its genuine and my honest experience with it.

I'm in the minority on this one myself and personally ordered the Jokerz when my wife ordered this as I much prefer the effects of the Jokerz as it just works well for me .

4g through a vape does sound like a real downer to be honest and I'd be gutted but where it has filled a gap cheaply for a lot of people and I don't for one minute doubt this is your experience as like I say I often am disappointed by strains others find fantastic, so thank you for your honest experience .

Once again welcome

 

[GrownHealth]

Thank you and apologies for me coming across rude there. If I'm being honest I'm only one prescription in with it so far and its been so bad I'm possibly not going to continue with it.

Oh mate it's just about doing a bit of research as in reading other members views on stuff and forming an opinion before taking the plunge and being aware of what's available and we'll help you all we can no worries.
If I'm right your with Mamedica® and have had your first script and will be due a follow up consult soon to place your second request and if so we'll get you prepared with what your options are going into the appointment so you don't get diverted in your choice and after your second script you get too choose yourself independently off their portal each month ,so all is not lost and if you need any help with what is available their just let me know and I'll help all I/we can .

 

[node]

Welcome @JayG303

One of our members puts it beautifully: "Different Strains / Different Brains" and I agree

 

[JayG303]

Oh mate it's just about doing a bit of research as in reading other members views on stuff and forming an opinion before taking the plunge and being aware of what's available and we'll help you all we can no worries.
If I'm right your with Mamedica® and have had your first script and will be due a follow up consult soon to place your second request and if so we'll get you prepared with what your options are going into the appointment so you don't get diverted in your choice and after your second script you get too choose yourself independently off their portal each month ,so all is not lost and if you need any help with what is available their just let me know and I'll help all I/we can .

Thank you. I've had my first month review and decided I'm going to order 10g of one strain this week and if it works then I'll order more. If not I'll try one or 2 others and go from there. I can't risk ordering my 60g limit at once again as its crippled me financially haha. Unfortunately I've had to spend £500 buying it illegally for most of the last month because of it not working and I really cant have that happen again.

 

[node]

Thank you. I've had my first month review and decided I'm going to order 10g of one strain this week and if it works then I'll order more. If not I'll try one or 2 others and go from there. I can't risk ordering my 60g limit at once again as its crippled me financially haha. Unfortunately I've had to spend £500 buying it illegally for most of the last month because of it not working and I really cant have that happen again.

What strains do you use on the BM mate?

 

[JayG303]

What strains do you use on the BM matHello mat

What strains do you use on the BM mate?

Hello mate. Today I had to get Stardawg which was cheap but over the last few weeks I've had Cereal Milk, Peanut Butter and Ogres Breath. They're all really good but £40 for 3.5. They're that strong that I barely need to use any. The less I can vape/smoke the better and these hit you like a bus within 20-30 seconds.

 

[Growjak Stashtoshi]

Hello mate. Today I had to get Stardawg which was cheap but over the last few weeks I've had Cereal Milk, Peanut Butter and Ogres Breath. They're all really good but £40 for 3.5. They're that strong that I barely need to use any. The less I can vape/smoke the better and these hit you like a bus within 20-30 seconds.



I would recommend non irradiated flower with r o r and pave (if still available) atm the terp profiles will be familiar, think runtz and the old garrison Lane packs

 

[Growjak Stashtoshi]

Unsure why my response came through like that

 

[GrownHealth]

Unsure why my response came through like that

A bit strange but I've noticed one or two like that recently and we'll keep our eyes on it in case there is an underlying problem

 

[Growjak Stashtoshi]

A bit strange but I've noticed one or two like that recently and we'll keep our eyes on it in case there is an underlying problem 

It happens majority the time when I try and reply to a comment been like it a few days maybe even a week so.

 

[GrownHealth]

It happens majority the time when I try and reply to a comment been like it a few days maybe even a week so.

Ah right I'll let the dude who'll know what the problem is know

 

[Milk999]

Ah right I'll let the dude who'll know what the problem is know

Hello mate. Today I had to get Stardawg which was cheap but over the last few weeks I've had Cereal Milk, Peanut Butter and Ogres Breath. They're all really good but £40 for 3.5. They're that strong that I barely need to use any. The less I can vape/smoke the better and these hit you like a bus within 20-30 seconds.

Expensive compared to MC, that’s £320 for an Oz at that rate, you can definitely find something cheaper that will still hit hard

 

[JayG303]

Expensive compared to MC, that’s £320 for an Oz at that rate, you can definitely find something cheaper that will still hit hard

It is expensive but the quality is so much better that it works out cheaper in the end. I only need a tiny smoke of the expensive ones for it to do the job so I use a lot less. I can get cheaper stuff but its better to pay the extra £10 knowing I'm getting top quality stuff. Hopefully I won't need to buy it for much longer and I get it sorted legally.

 

[Milk999]

It is expensive but the quality is so much better that it works out cheaper in the end. I only need a tiny smoke of the expensive ones for it to do the job so I use a lot less. I can get cheaper stuff but it’s better to pay the extra £10 knowing I'm getting top quality stuff. Hopefully I won't need to buy it for much longer and I get it sorted legally.

I’m sure you’ll find something cheaper. I’m the same as you in terms being more bothered about effects than looks or taste. My first months order was not great, I let the doc do it thinking they knew better than I did. I did get a 26% that hit, I was thinking MC wouldn’t touch the sides so was pleasantly surprised to actually feel it, the rest was crap. Since then I’m kinda experimenting with what works and what doesn’t. This months experiment is will I even feel the sudz and jokerz? Was cheap enough to give it a try. If I do feel them I can reduce my minimum THC content of around 24%. The dream is to find something cheap that works great, I’m sure no of us really want to be spending the money that we do on this stuff. Part of why I did this was in the hope of saving money. I really enjoyed the MAC doughnut by all nations last month but have seen others not enjoy it, only 4.50/g if you can get it and 27% but don’t blame me if you hate it as we are all very different

 

[node]

I’m sure you’ll find something cheaper. I’m the same as you in terms being more bothered about effects than looks or taste. My first months order was not great, I let the doc do it thinking they knew better than I did. I did get a 26% that hit, I was thinking MC wouldn’t touch the sides so was pleasantly surprised to actually feel it, the rest was crap. Since then I’m kinda experimenting with what works and what doesn’t. This months experiment is will I even feel the sudz and jokerz? Was cheap enough to give it a try. If I do feel them I can reduce my minimum THC content of around 24%. The dream is to find something cheap that works great, I’m sure no of us really want to be spending the money that we do on this stuff. Part of why I did this was in the hope of saving money. I really enjoyed the MAC doughnut by all nations last month but have seen others not enjoy it, only 4.50/g if you can get it and 27% but don’t blame me if you hate it as we are all very different

Tip: if I may - its taken me years to learn to do this maybe even decades thinking about it... I've stopped chasing THC. You should think about that too.

 

[Milk999]

Tip: if I may - its taken me years to learn to do this maybe even decades thinking about it... I've stopped chasing THC. You should think about that too.

Thanks for the advice, my evolution has been like this:
Month 1 - only things that work are 25% and above from 4C Labs
Month 2- had spare money so tried a lot of top range stuff, learnt that price tag isn’t always indicative of quality
Month 3 - went for 2 cheap smalls from 4C Labs to keep price down, morning sun was a great disappointment learnt that THC levels may not be everything
Month 4 (this month) - trying sudz and jokerz to test lower THC levels for daytime (tried death bubba due to rave reviews and felt the effects were underwhelming weren’t worth the £9/g, maybe due to lower THC but not conclusive), also Yoda cap due to good reviews and a couple others on recommendations for sleep.

I spend a ridiculous amount of time on this site browsing now. Still like a kid in a sweetshop.

What’s the lowest THC level you have found work for you? On what basis do you decide what to pick? I understand that the market only measures THC a levels which in no way explains the whole story, would be good to have an understanding of other THC’s and CBD’s and their general effects

 

[node]

Thanks for the advice, my evolution has been like this:
Month 1 - only things that work are 25% and above from 4C Labs
Month 2- had spare money so tried a lot of top range stuff, learnt that price tag isn’t always indicative of quality
Month 3 - went for 2 cheap smalls from 4C Labs to keep price down, morning sun was a great disappointment learnt that THC levels may not be everything
Month 4 (this month) - trying sudz and jokerz to test lower THC levels for daytime (tried death bubba due to rave reviews and felt the effects were underwhelming weren’t worth the £9/g, maybe due to lower THC but not conclusive), also Yoda cap due to good reviews and a couple others on recommendations for sleep.

I spend a ridiculous amount of time on this site browsing now. Still like a kid in a sweetshop.

What’s the lowest THC level you have found work for you? On what basis do you decide what to pick? I understand that the market only measures THC a levels which in no way explains the whole story, would be good to have an understanding of other THC’s and CBD’s and their general effects

Patience mate - I can feel your almost there. Do what @Dooby Doo advises.. wait for the flower to come to you...

Intros Post in thread 'Introduction and 1 month review.'

29th Jul, 2025

Hi mate. Apologies I didnt see this. Thank you for the reply, I'm sure it was something to do with storage and age because they looked and smelled so good till vaped/smoked. It was like once upon a time there was a something there but it had left a long time before I bought it haha. I'll get there, just going to take time I think.

Yes mate take your time, I'd look on here and see what people are saying about particular strains, or even ask the Community. Anxiety can be a bit tricky to deal with, mine can go through the roof at times and nothing seems to work. I've found in stead...

• Dooby Doo

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So when are the Sudz + Jokerz arriving?

 

[Milk999]

Patience mate - I can feel your almost there. Do what @Dooby Doo advises.. wait for the flower to come to you...

Intros Post in thread 'Introduction and 1 month review.'

29th Jul, 2025

Hi mate. Apologies I didnt see this. Thank you for the reply, I'm sure it was something to do with storage and age because they looked and smelled so good till vaped/smoked. It was like once upon a time there was a something there but it had left a long time before I bought it haha. I'll get there, just going to take time I think.

Yes mate take your time, I'd look on here and see what people are saying about particular strains, or even ask the Community. Anxiety can be a bit tricky to deal with, mine can go through the roof at times and nothing seems to work. I've found in stead...

• Dooby Doo

• 
• 

So when are the Sudz + Jokerz arriving?

Thanks, arrival day is Thursday, currently on BM dust to get me through so well excited for my monthly Christmas Day as I think of it

 

[JayG303]

I’m sure you’ll find something cheaper. I’m the same as you in terms being more bothered about effects than looks or taste. My first months order was not great, I let the doc do it thinking they knew better than I did. I did get a 26% that hit, I was thinking MC wouldn’t touch the sides so was pleasantly surprised to actually feel it, the rest was crap. Since then I’m kinda experimenting with what works and what doesn’t. This months experiment is will I even feel the sudz and jokerz? Was cheap enough to give it a try. If I do feel them I can reduce my minimum THC content of around 24%. The dream is to find something cheap that works great, I’m sure no of us really want to be spending the money that we do on this stuff. Part of why I did this was in the hope of saving money. I really enjoyed the MAC doughnut by all nations last month but have seen others not enjoy it, only 4.50/g if you can get it and 27% but don’t blame me if you hate it as we are all very different

Hi mate, I appreciate the advice. I'm going to have to accept that this is going to take a while before its all steady and working as it should. I'll have a try of that Doughnut but I did try Tropic Thunder by them which had seeds in and was pretty stale. Hopefully it was just a bad batch.

I noticed you're with Mamedica®. How have you found them? It hasn't gone too well for me, I'm currently on hold to Alternaleaf to get some info from them about how they do things. I'm already looking at transferring.

 

[Milk999]

Hi mate, I appreciate the advice. I'm going to have to accept that this is going to take a while before its all steady and working as it should. I'll have a try of that Doughnut but I did try Tropic Thunder by them which had seeds in and was pretty stale. Hopefully it was just a bad batch.

I noticed you're with Mamedica®. How have you found them? It hasn't gone too well for me, I'm currently on hold to Alternaleaf to get some info from them about how they do things. I'm already looking at transferring.

Not had any issues with Mamedica as yet, except one appointment they forgot to book but got me an earlier one instead. Overall not massively impressed but also not motivated enough to move. The wife is transferring to CB1 Medical today so am interested in how they are. From what I’ve read alternaleaf, cb1, and Cardiff cannabis clinics seem to be the best services going from forums. I went with Mamedica because I watch too much YouTube

Good luck if you do transfer. Make sure you are honest about your use and it seems your high tolerance otherwise it’ll take months to get what you want, if you dont want oil, flat out say it to ensure the message is clear, they try to push it on everyone at first it seems. My wife’s communication at the first appointment was a bit passive and led to not getting higher THC strains for months and bought oil which she hated.