Flower £17.70 for 10g Upstate Imperial Mimosa - Newgrove (REAL - 2 DAYS LEFT)

[G2M]

Now confirmed to be 100% Legit, grab some if your with Newgrove ASAP 2 days to dispense or it must be destroyed

 

[Muiredach]

Unbelievably, I believe this offer is genuine - there's just two days to legally dispense before expiry. Thereafter, their stock has to be destroyed.

 

[G2M]

Unbelievably, I believe this offer is genuine - there's just two days to legally dispense before expiry. Thereafter, their stock has to be destroyed.

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I'd happily destroy it for them if need be free of charge

 

[Muiredach]

Your jaw would drop at the amount of cannabis that has to be legally destroyed each month because of expiry, infact our facilities in the UK are amongst the most cost-efficient in Europe, to the point we literally import cannabis from other countries just to destroy it.

A long-term friend of MedBud helps fill-in a lot of the paperwork to do so...

 

[G2M]

Your jaw would drop at the amount of cannabis that has to be legally destroyed each month because of expiry, infact our facilities in the UK are amongst the most cost-efficient in Europe, to the point we literally import cannabis from other countries just to destroy it.

A long-term friend of MedBud helps fill-in a lot of the paperwork to do so...

Thats sickening especially when most of it will be perfectly useable I've literally found bud I lost a year previous and it smoked as good as it did the day I lost it (before I was on MC ofc)

 

[Muiredach]

Indeed, but there's quite a cost involved in retesting 'retention samples' in order to extend an expiry date - it's always a bit of a roll of the dice for companies as to whether to pay a little to destroy, or pay more to potentially extend the last of their stock - and gamble on more of it selling, when it obviously hasn't sold enough yet already.

 

[G2M]

Indeed, but there's quite a cost involved in retesting 'retention samples' in order to extend an expiry date - it's always a bit of a roll of the dice for companies as to whether to pay a little to destroy, or pay more to potentially extend the last of their stock - and gamble on more of it selling, when it obviously hasn't sold enough yet already.

hoping sometime in the near future this process changes and they introduce a section specifically only for "Expiring/Expired Bud" and if the price is right it will fly off the shelf just like the flower for example today with this mimosa I would've 100% took it If I were with Newgrove, the expiry thing doesn't bother me at that price and I'm sure there must be a load of people who feel the same aslong as the product is still decent quality

 

[Muiredach]

We've made similar suggestions in the past, some clinics such as Cannabis Clinic Cardiff do this already on their portal.

 

[G2M]

We've made similar suggestions in the past, some clinics such as Cannabis Clinic Cardiff do this already on their portal.

When I get back to work I'm definitely going with CCC, hear too many too good things I'm missing out on

 

[G2M]

We've made similar suggestions in the past, some clinics such as Cannabis Clinic Cardiff do this already on their portal.

Do you know how much the swap fee is? noticed there isnt anything showing it on here or they're website

 

[williemed]

Ok so who’s up for setting up a clinic by patients for patients where we buy up any expiring stuff, re test, then prescribe/sell to patients at cost/non-profit rates?

I guess it’s not viable or big players would be doing it already, but then they are trying to make money I just like the sound of reducing waste and helping patients get access to reduced price meds

 

[G2M]

Ok so who’s up for setting up a clinic by patients for patients where we buy up any expiring stuff, re test, then prescribe/sell to patients at cost/non-profit rates?

Thats un-ethical... sign me up!

 

[williemed]

I’ve seen that cookies stuff date extended at least twice it does make you wonder

 

[G2M]

I think Muiredach should setup a clinic... he knows exactly what everyone wants/needs after speaking to and moderating everyone over the years, look at this site... this guy has done most of it himself from what I've read/heard... the clinic would be wild Grownhealth, Node and Moon are the doctors...

 

[Muiredach]

When I get back to work I'm definitely going with Cannabis Clinic Cardiff, hear too many too good things I'm missing out on

I've been with them for what must be over 2 years now, after leaving my prior/2nd clinic I nearly gave up on legal MC entirely because of continual script issues.

Do you know how much the swap fee is? noticed there isnt anything showing it on here or they're website

They don't have one, it's a straight £250 sign-up fee, then either £100 every three months, or £33.33 per month thereafter. They don't have a clinic formulary specifically, and follow every pharmacy formulary.

Ok so who’s up for setting up a clinic by patients for patients where we buy up any expiring stuff, re test, then prescribe/sell to patients at cost/non-profit rates?

Can't quite be done like that, only the original brand can retest/extend expiry - and only in conjunction with the original packager. While this could work to some degree, as in brands being willing to extend if some pharmacy buys up all the remaining stock (funding it) - it also requires big capital, and quite a lot of set-up.

I think Muiredach should setup a clinic... he knows exactly what everyone wants/needs after speaking to and moderating everyone over the years, look at this site... this guy has done most of it himself from what I've read/heard... the clinic would be wild Grownhealth, Node and Moon are the doctors...

My tongue is slightly tied here, as we have the means to potentially push this forward - but I can't say too much publicly. I will say we've tried to convince an upcoming clinic to go non-profit.

I'll also note our medical director is a prescribing clinician and registered trainer, and between us we know a lot of prescribing specialists highly supportive of our work.

 

[G2M]

How about we get a celebrity to fund us/you a new medical clinic? or is it way more complicated than just the money part... I would actually be interested to know the process of how they start up a clinic (even though I'll never do it myself) imagine it must be a headache of permits/licensing stuff that needs approved etc

 

[Muiredach]

It's not really more complicated than that, I mean there's a lot of time commitment, especially in terms of policy/protocol writing and building suitable systems - but that's just a couple of months hard work before launch - and something we've been involved in already.

The major issue, and something most patients don't recognise right now is that almost all clinics are entirely loss-leading, as in losing money to make-up profit elsewhere (via their pharmacy or profit-sharing models). In almost all circumstances a clinic will try recommend/guide patients towards a default pharmacy, and while we cover this for documentation purposes, it's infact non-compliant with various organisation's medical guidelines as we understand – notably GMC and BMA.

By contrast, the reason Cannabis Clinic Cardiff as above is so expensive is because they have no revenue-share based upon medications prescribed - and you're literally paying for the doctor's time and their additional overheads directly. It's often said if the courts properly shut-down prescription direction and illegal profit-sharing models, most clinics would have to jump to £300+ per year - but then pharmacies would also finally start having to go under RRP to be competitive so patients freely choose them. We're the outlier right now, compared to both the German and Australian medical cannabis markets - where pharmacies race to the bottom to provide the cheapest prices.

I come from a medical family, my uncle and cousin are prescribing specialists in Germany - my Grandfather opened and led a clinic for the poor post-WW2 in Pforzheim, Germany - to me, any kickback to a doctor/clinic prescribing certain meds is a major conflict of interest, and entirely incompatible with ethical medical prescribing. It breaches the most fundamental tenets of the Hippocratic Oath going back 2,000+ years.

So, as things stand in the UK, many of the larger clinics loss-lead by what is literally hundreds of thousands per month, because either the majority of the scripts will go to their own pharmacy (with 25-50% margin average which recoups their losses) - or there's some other reimbursement mechanism available to them. This isn't a case of the entire industry being complicit, but these relationships do exist between certain parties.

Since day one MedBud has stood strongly for impartial prescribing, including free choice of pharmacies utilised, and informed medical consent on what is being prescribed so patients aren't just thrown into having to select a medication with limited information (and often within the space of a rushed phone/video consultation).

I'm rambling a little here, but the overriding point is we want to see a non-profit clinic come to the UK market - but even without profit, I don't see a way of it being financially feasible while properly allowing all meds/pharmacies - without charging at least something like £300ish a year.

We are entirely willing to support such a project, but under the strict rule that no medication/pharmacy bias is allowed.

 

[G2M]

It's not really more complicated than that, I mean there's a lot of time commitment, especially in terms of policy/protocol writing and building suitable systems - but that's just a couple of months hard work before launch - and something we've been involved in already.

The major issue, and something most patients don't recognise right now is that almost all clinics are entirely loss-leading, as in losing money to make-up profit elsewhere (via their pharmacy or profit-sharing models). In almost all circumstances a clinic will try recommend/guide patients towards a default pharmacy, and while we cover this for documentation purposes, it's infact non-compliant with various organisation's medical guidelines as we understand – notably GMC and BMA.

By contrast, the reason Cannabis Clinic Cardiff as above is so expensive is because they have no revenue-share based upon medications prescribed - and you're literally paying for the doctor's time and their additional overheads directly. It's often said if the courts properly shut-down prescription direction and illegal profit-sharing models, most clinics would have to jump to £300+ per year - but then pharmacies would also finally start having to go under RRP to be competitive so patients freely choose them. We're the outlier right now, compared to both the German and Australian medical cannabis markets - where pharmacies race to the bottom to provide the cheapest prices.

I come from a medical family, my uncle and cousin are prescribing specialists in Germany - my Grandfather opened and led a clinic for the poor post-WW2 in Pforzheim, Germany - to me, any kickback to a doctor/clinic prescribing certain meds is a major conflict of interest, and entirely incompatible with ethical medical prescribing. It breaches the most fundamental tenets of the Hippocratic Oath going back 2,000+ years.

So, as things stand in the UK, many of the larger clinics loss-lead by what is literally hundreds of thousands per month, because either the majority of the scripts will go to their own pharmacy (with 25-50% margin average which recoups their losses) - or there's some other reimbursement mechanism available to them. This isn't a case of the entire industry being complicit, but these relationships do exist between certain parties.

Since day one MedBud has stood strongly for impartial prescribing, including free choice of pharmacies utilised, and informed medical consent on what is being prescribed so patients aren't just thrown into having to select a medication with limited information (and often within the space of a rushed phone/video consultation).

I'm rambling a little here, but the overriding point is we want to see a non-profit clinic come to the UK market - but even without profit, I don't see a way of it being financially feasible while properly allowing all meds/pharmacies - without charging at least something like £300ish a year.

We are entirely willing to support such a project, but under the strict rule that no medication/pharmacy bias is allowed.

problem with non-profit is solely relying on donations or sponsors so idk how that would work efficiently for paying staff wages + covering building costs, there definitely will be some sort of resolution to make everyone happy in the long run

 

[Muiredach]

It is mostly staffing costs, and especially affording that during the first few months which is the major issue. Building costs aren't really a major concern for clinics, there's quite a few that run almost entirely remote operations.

 

[G2M]

It is mostly staffing costs, and especially affording that during the first few months which is the major issue. Building costs aren't really a major concern for clinics, there's quite a few that run almost entirely remote operations.

I'm forgetting these are all mostly "virtual offices" well that changes things a bit I guess... so yeah staff costs... would it just be a case of they work from home and reply as of when required using some sort of login?