Vapes Advice about use and maintenance of the Mighty+ Medic

[Bubbles]

I’ve bought a Mighty+ with my first MC prescription. The instructions say I need to clean the mouthpiece, cooling unit & filling chamber screen with isopropyl alcohol. Does everybody do this? If so, where can I buy a large bottle of isopropyl alcohol in the UK?

 

[node]

I’ve bought a Mighty+ with my first MC prescription. The instructions say I need to clean the mouthpiece, cooling unit & filling chamber screen with isopropyl alcohol. Does everybody do this? If so, where can I buy a large bottle of isopropyl alcohol in the UK?

Most pharmacies will stock this.

 

[BudGuy]

I’ve bought a Mighty+ with my first MC prescription. The instructions say I need to clean the mouthpiece, cooling unit & filling chamber screen with isopropyl alcohol. Does everybody do this? If so, where can I buy a large bottle of isopropyl alcohol in the UK?

That's correct, if you're going to be a cannabis vapouriser user, isopropyl alcohol is going to be your friend, and you're going to want to sort out a decent supply of it!

And yes, better to learn sooner rather than later that the more often you do it, the easier your life will be. Depending on how heavy your use is, I recommend not going more than 1-2 weeks without some sort of isopropyl wash for your cooling unit.

Storz and Bickel recommend 70% isopropyl alcohol, you can buy it in gallon amounts on Amazon fairly easily for a relatively decent price. Although it might be an idea to go for 99% instead and water it down. It might work out cheaper AND there are sometimes when having the extra strength is useful if it's particularly gunky. Just don't leave parts sitting in 99% for too long.

It's also handy to buy a box of 70% isopropyl wipes for dealing with small cleanup jobs on a more regular basis just for like the dosing capsules, or to clean out the oils that can end up in the heating chamber, or if any of the dreaded oil gets on something it shouldn't.

I have a few cooling units I cycle between so I can avoid cleaning quite as often, but once every 2-4 weeks I'll take them all apart, dump them in a plastic container with some isopropyl, swish it around a bit and leave it to sit for 5-10 mins. Come back and swish it around a bit more. Repeat a few times, then after 30-60 minutes, give it a clean off with the small cleaning brush or similar. The iso does an amazing job given how virtually every other method of cleaning these oils fails spectacularly - it should look good as new unless you leave it too long in which case it becomes less hassle to buy a new cooling unit. You might make that mistake a few times before you realise it's not worth the expense just to avoid cleaning a little more often.

Remember there's the small clip part of the cooling unit which should NOT go in the alcohol. I presume that's because it has a sticker on it, and the iso will dissolve the adhesives which could contaminate the other parts of your unit etc. I sometimes just take the sticket off entirely so I CAN clean all parts of the unit together in the iso.

I have a 2nd bottle where I store the alcohol that's been used to clean stuff out. It goes a golden yellow colour. I reuse it over and over again and after a few years you'll have a pretty potent collection of THC dissolved in isopropyl. You can then theoretically dry that out and evaporate all the water and alcohol away, leaving behind pure THC oil which can be reused in any way you like.

Tip: just before you take the cooling unit apart, stick it on the mighty at 210 and take a few draws through it. The heat will thin the oils making it far easier for the iso to dissolve them.

 

[BudGuy]

Most pharmacies will stock this.

Hmm, that would be cool, but it doesn't seem like Curaleaf do. Unfortunate.

 

[node]

Hmm, that would be cool, but it doesn't seem like Curaleaf do. Unfortunate.

I mean high street type, like boots.

 

[BudGuy]

I mean high street type, like boots.

Ahhhhh.

Yeah probably, though doubt they do gallons of it and I imagine it's high street prices as well.

Your best bet on price would be a cash and carry/costco, probably in the cleaning aisle.

Your best bet on convenience is Amazon.

But yeah, I think I'm onto something with my misinterpretation of what you said. Why aren't cannabis clinics selling vapes, accessories, tools, cleaning products, etc, alongside their product? There's a chance they could get it cheaper/VAT free for their patients while also opening up additional low-regulation revenue streams.

 

[GrownHealth]

Some great advice being put in this thread for people getting to grips with maintaining their mighty and I'm the last person to ask for advice on this and will probably come back to this thread periodically to refresh on good practice .

 

[MigraineMan]

If it's food grade 99% you also use it to make RSO versatile stuff!

I'm going to have to go googling now as I thought from my distilling days 95% was the max ABV as anything above that vapourises (and yes you could run a motor off 95% alcoho,l it's been done and is another reason for high duty costs and prohibition of home distillation, that and numpties blowing themselves and the surrounding area to the heavens )

 

[MigraineMan]

The old grey matter isn't done for yet, 95.6% is the theroretical limit by straight distillation, they use chemical reaction it seems to squeeze out the extra 3.4%. So if you have a column/refraction still then the 95% stuff from that will work just as well You can also use the old freezing trick if you can get cheap 40/50% stuff. I

'm like a walking viz top tips, how's about a picture of a......

 

[GrownHealth]

The old grey matter isn't done for yet, 95.6% is the theroretical limit by straight distillation, they use chemical reaction it seems to squeeze out the extra 3.4%. So if you have a column/refraction still then the 95% stuff from that will work just as well You can also use the old freezing trick if you can get cheap 40/50% stuff. I

'm like a walking viz top tips, how's about a picture of a......

that and numpties blowing themselves and the surrounding area to the heavens )

Lets keep the thread to cleaning vapes and not bomb making
You know i'd fall into the numpties section

 

[node]

Ahhhhh.

Yeah probably, though doubt they do gallons of it and I imagine it's high street prices as well.

Your best bet on price would be a cash and carry/costco, probably in the cleaning aisle.

Your best bet on convenience is Amazon.

But yeah, I think I'm onto something with my misinterpretation of what you said. Why aren't cannabis clinics selling vapes, accessories, tools, cleaning products, etc, alongside their product? There's a chance they could get it cheaper/VAT free for their patients while also opening up additional low-regulation revenue streams.

Some do. You can have a look at Montu - can also make an account to look at their available MC. https://store.montu.uk/collections/...ilter.v.price.lte=&sort_by=created-descending

 

[node]

Lets keep the thread to cleaning vapes and not bomb making
You know i'd fall into the numpties section

I'd fall into the heavily signpost hole prior to the onboarding with you lol

 

[BudGuy]

The old grey matter isn't done for yet, 95.6% is the theroretical limit by straight distillation, they use chemical reaction it seems to squeeze out the extra 3.4%. So if you have a column/refraction still then the 95% stuff from that will work just as well You can also use the old freezing trick if you can get cheap 40/50% stuff. I

'm like a walking viz top tips, how's about a picture of a......

Yeaaahhhh science bitch

 

[Bubbles]

That's correct, if you're going to be a cannabis vapouriser user, isopropyl alcohol is going to be your friend, and you're going to want to sort out a decent supply of it!

And yes, better to learn sooner rather than later that the more often you do it, the easier your life will be. Depending on how heavy your use is, I recommend not going more than 1-2 weeks without some sort of isopropyl wash for your cooling unit.

Storz and Bickel recommend 70% isopropyl alcohol, you can buy it in gallon amounts on Amazon fairly easily for a relatively decent price. Although it might be an idea to go for 99% instead and water it down. It might work out cheaper AND there are sometimes when having the extra strength is useful if it's particularly gunky. Just don't leave parts sitting in 99% for too long.

It's also handy to buy a box of 70% isopropyl wipes for dealing with small cleanup jobs on a more regular basis just for like the dosing capsules, or to clean out the oils that can end up in the heating chamber, or if any of the dreaded oil gets on something it shouldn't.

I have a few cooling units I cycle between so I can avoid cleaning quite as often, but once every 2-4 weeks I'll take them all apart, dump them in a plastic container with some isopropyl, swish it around a bit and leave it to sit for 5-10 mins. Come back and swish it around a bit more. Repeat a few times, then after 30-60 minutes, give it a clean off with the small cleaning brush or similar. The iso does an amazing job given how virtually every other method of cleaning these oils fails spectacularly - it should look good as new unless you leave it too long in which case it becomes less hassle to buy a new cooling unit. You might make that mistake a few times before you realise it's not worth the expense just to avoid cleaning a little more often.

Remember there's the small clip part of the cooling unit which should NOT go in the alcohol. I presume that's because it has a sticker on it, and the iso will dissolve the adhesives which could contaminate the other parts of your unit etc. I sometimes just take the sticket off entirely so I CAN clean all parts of the unit together in the iso.

I have a 2nd bottle where I store the alcohol that's been used to clean stuff out. It goes a golden yellow colour. I reuse it over and over again and after a few years you'll have a pretty potent collection of THC dissolved in isopropyl. You can then theoretically dry that out and evaporate all the water and alcohol away, leaving behind pure THC oil which can be reused in any way you like.

Tip: just before you take the cooling unit apart, stick it on the mighty at 210 and take a few draws through it. The heat will thin the oils making it far easier for the iso to dissolve them.

That's correct, if you're going to be a cannabis vapouriser user, isopropyl alcohol is going to be your friend, and you're going to want to sort out a decent supply of it!

And yes, better to learn sooner rather than later that the more often you do it, the easier your life will be. Depending on how heavy your use is, I recommend not going more than 1-2 weeks without some sort of isopropyl wash for your cooling unit.

Storz and Bickel recommend 70% isopropyl alcohol, you can buy it in gallon amounts on Amazon fairly easily for a relatively decent price. Although it might be an idea to go for 99% instead and water it down. It might work out cheaper AND there are sometimes when having the extra strength is useful if it's particularly gunky. Just don't leave parts sitting in 99% for too long.

It's also handy to buy a box of 70% isopropyl wipes for dealing with small cleanup jobs on a more regular basis just for like the dosing capsules, or to clean out the oils that can end up in the heating chamber, or if any of the dreaded oil gets on something it shouldn't.

I have a few cooling units I cycle between so I can avoid cleaning quite as often, but once every 2-4 weeks I'll take them all apart, dump them in a plastic container with some isopropyl, swish it around a bit and leave it to sit for 5-10 mins. Come back and swish it around a bit more. Repeat a few times, then after 30-60 minutes, give it a clean off with the small cleaning brush or similar. The iso does an amazing job given how virtually every other method of cleaning these oils fails spectacularly - it should look good as new unless you leave it too long in which case it becomes less hassle to buy a new cooling unit. You might make that mistake a few times before you realise it's not worth the expense just to avoid cleaning a little more often.

Remember there's the small clip part of the cooling unit which should NOT go in the alcohol. I presume that's because it has a sticker on it, and the iso will dissolve the adhesives which could contaminate the other parts of your unit etc. I sometimes just take the sticket off entirely so I CAN clean all parts of the unit together in the iso.

I have a 2nd bottle where I store the alcohol that's been used to clean stuff out. It goes a golden yellow colour. I reuse it over and over again and after a few years you'll have a pretty potent collection of THC dissolved in isopropyl. You can then theoretically dry that out and evaporate all the water and alcohol away, leaving behind pure THC oil which can be reused in any way you like.

Tip: just before you take the cooling unit apart, stick it on the mighty at 210 and take a few draws through it. The heat will thin the oils making it far easier for the iso to dissolve them.

Thanks a million for sharing all your wonderful tips, it’s really nice of you.

Do you know a good supplier of larger volumes of ipa, or do you think a litre is enough to start with? I have a little box of pre-injection swabs that are ipa 70% – is that the sort of thing you mean? They’re quite tiny, so I imagine rather good for cleaning small vape parts. I use them for sanitising my phone and removing sticky label residue!

That’s such a clever idea re the 2nd bottle. So you can use the same ipa over and over to clean the vape bits?

I think I need to find a YouTube tutorial to show me how to dismantle the Mighty+ as I’m scared I’ll break it if I try and remove the mouthpiece or the cap lock thingie. No picture instructions to speak of in the user manual.

What are the different sized mesh screens for, i.e. do these wear out and need replacing, and how do you choose which size to put in?

 

[GrownHealth]

Little bit more information on using the mighty from @Smacksalad Including dismantling for cleaning.

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[BudGuy]

Thanks a million for sharing all your wonderful tips, it’s really nice of you.

Do you know a good supplier of larger volumes of ipa, or do you think a litre is enough to start with? I have a little box of pre-injection swabs that are ipa 70% – is that the sort of thing you mean? They’re quite tiny, so I imagine rather good for cleaning small vape parts. I use them for sanitising my phone and removing sticky label residue!

That’s such a clever idea re the 2nd bottle. So you can use the same ipa over and over to clean the vape bits?

I think I need to find a YouTube tutorial to show me how to dismantle the Mighty+ as I’m scared I’ll break it if I try and remove the mouthpiece or the cap lock thingie. No picture instructions to speak of in the user manual.

What are the different sized mesh screens for, i.e. do these wear out and need replacing, and how do you choose which size to put in?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B092MXDYP6?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_2

This is the last 5 L amount I bought.

1 L is certainly enough to get started with. In fact, here's my recommendation: By 2x 1L bottles to begin with. Use the first 1L bottle up and dispose of it as you go. You now have an empty bottle. Now start using the other 1 L bottle, but save the used stuff in the empty instead of disposing. Once this bottle has all been used in a cleaning, start using the other bottle as the "empty", etc, so now you're just swapping between 2 1L bottles repeatedly. Spillage/evaporation will occur and the you'll eventually not have enough to fill the bottle. Go buy a 5 L bottle and use it to top up the 1L bottle, then continue cleaning and changing from one bottle to the next. Once the cleaning action becomes noticeably worse, process the 1 L to get the reclaim, and fill up one of the 1 L bottles from the 5 L bottle to start over again. 1L bottles are just easier to handle for regular cleaning, so start off with them and use a 5 L to restock them in future, instead of actually trying to clean with a cumbersome 5 L bottle.

Yeah, the pre-injection wipes are what I mean. Ideal for a quick wipe between capsule changes.

I got that idea from some Dutch coffeeshops - some of the ones which have volcano vaporisers will hand out some alcohol wipes with a handful of mouthpieces so people can share the same bag and use the wipe to clean down the mouthpiece. Great for general hygiene when vaping either alone, or with friends, or as part of your cleaning process.

You can use the same IPA over and over again, yeah. Once it gets to the point it's taking too long to dissolve any more THC then time to move on to a new bottle make a plan for getting those oils back!!

The chamber seems quite fragile, but it's really not - German engineering at its finest.

With mesh screens, the courseness of the mesh determines the tradeoff between the amount of vapour which gets let through and the amount of plant material which gets through. That's why you generally put the fine mesh screens on the bottom, to stop ANY plant material whatsoever falling inside the air path of the Mighty, whereas the course screen generally goes on the cooling chamber because you want as much vapour to pass through it as possible, and a little plant material isn't a big deal because you can and will clean it often enough. But you can certainly try a fine mesh on the cooling unit as well. You should find that it keeps the internal part of the cooling chamber cleaner for longer, but the mesh screen itself will jam up more quickly and need replace/cleaned itself more often. It's all tradeoffs.

 

[Bubbles]

Little bit more information on using the mighty from @Smacksalad Including dismantling for cleaning.

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Now worrying I should’ve got the Tinymight 2 instead of the Mighty+. It looks a lot easier to clean, and nice and small too. Looks good for on demand use rather than big sessions, which might be better for me as a lightweight who can’t seem to handle too much THC in one go!! Is there a downside to a convection-only vape? What would everyone else choose – the Mighty+ or the TM2?

 

[BudGuy]

Now worrying I should’ve got the Tinymight 2 instead of the Mighty+. It looks a lot easier to clean, and nice and small too. Looks good for on demand use rather than big sessions, which might be better for me as a lightweight who can’t seem to handle too much THC in one go!! Is there a downside to a convection-only vape? What would everyone else choose – the Mighty+ or the TM2?

The Mighty+ is identical to the Mighty+ Medic which is one of the only vapourisers actually tested and approved for the use of cannabis flower. It is therefore extremely well studied, and if you read the manuals of the Mighty+ Medic you can see published figures about THC extraction from flower etc based on their studies, which means for the first time in medical history a person can actually have a numerical awareness of the likely dose they get from inhaling cannabis flower. For that reason alone, the M+ is a clear winner for me.

"Nice and small" is always a trade-off between discretion and battery life. Before I was on MC I valued discretion more than battery life, now I'm on MC I value battery life more than discretion. Especially if this is going to be your daily driver, then battery degradation is inevitable, and therefore the larger the battery you buy the longer you can delay the point where you essentially need to have it plugged in more or less permanently. It seems you can more easily swap the batteries on the Tinymight which gives it an edge over the M+, but I'd personally rather have a larger device than carry around spare batteries, and I don't mind sending it off to Storz & Bickel every few years for a battery swap. Ultimately the best way to save your battery life is to get a Desktop vape and only use your portable vape in situations where you actually need portability - that would be a better use of your funds than swapping to the TM.

As for easy to clean, I've watched a few videos of people cleaning the TM and it doesn't seem that much less complicated than the M+.

Concerningly, this guy ( ) says that the TM parts should be cleaned in soapy water and not alcohol, as alcohol apparently makes the parts of the TM brittle. Sorry, but soapy water just does not have anywhere near the dissolving capacity of cannabis oils as alcohol. Any time I've tried it, I've ended up with the soap binding to the oils to form a horrible scum but NOT removing them, so you just end up with a still dirty vape parts, but now contaminated with soap, rendering it unusable until you clean it off properly with alcohol. Soaps are better for washing away long-chain fatty molecules which can be balled up by agitation. Agitating the internal parts of any vape is always going to be tricky, and the THC molecule is relatively short chain, which is why alcohols which dissolve THC with minimal mechanical input are superior, so I would advise against any vape which can't take an alcohol clean. Not to mention the fact that THC dissolved in alcohol can be reclaimed, whereas it would b ill-advised to consume THC dissolved in soapy water.

You'd probably have to clean it way more often than the Mighty+ to avoid the type of build up that only alcohol can deal with.

One disadvantage of a convection only vape is that the temperature setting your device tells you it's set to will not necessarily be the temperature at the position of the flower. This is why you typically find that convection only devices go up to way higher temps than devices with conduction, to make up for the heat loss between the heating element and the flower. And generally, the temperature adjustment on the Tinymight looks horrifically fiddly, that would very quickly lead to sore fingers adjusting that multiple times per day imo. It doesn't even tell you the temp, it's just a bunch of settings between 1-10. Whereas the Mighty+ has a very precise and user-friendly temperature control and if you set it to 210, then your flower is actually experiencing damn near 210.

Could be handy in addition to the Mighty+ for situations where discretion and extreme portability is key, though perhaps not at that price point - but it's definitely no replacement for the Mighty+ in my opinion.

 

[Bubbles]

The Mighty+ is identical to the Mighty+ Medic which is one of the only vapourisers actually tested and approved for the use of cannabis flower. It is therefore extremely well studied, and if you read the manuals of the Mighty+ Medic you can see published figures about THC extraction from flower etc based on their studies, which means for the first time in medical history a person can actually have a numerical awareness of the likely dose they get from inhaling cannabis flower. For that reason alone, the M+ is a clear winner for me.

"Nice and small" is always a trade-off between discretion and battery life. Before I was on MC I valued discretion more than battery life, now I'm on MC I value battery life more than discretion. Especially if this is going to be your daily driver, then battery degradation is inevitable, and therefore the larger the battery you buy the longer you can delay the point where you essentially need to have it plugged in more or less permanently. It seems you can more easily swap the batteries on the Tinymight which gives it an edge over the M+, but I'd personally rather have a larger device than carry around spare batteries, and I don't mind sending it off to Storz & Bickel every few years for a battery swap. Ultimately the best way to save your battery life is to get a Desktop vape and only use your portable vape in situations where you actually need portability - that would be a better use of your funds than swapping to the TM.

As for easy to clean, I've watched a few videos of people cleaning the TM and it doesn't seem that much less complicated than the M+.

Concerningly, this guy ( ) says that the TM parts should be cleaned in soapy water and not alcohol, as alcohol apparently makes the parts of the TM brittle. Sorry, but soapy water just does not have anywhere near the dissolving capacity of cannabis oils as alcohol. Any time I've tried it, I've ended up with the soap binding to the oils to form a horrible scum but NOT removing them, so you just end up with a still dirty vape parts, but now contaminated with soap, rendering it unusable until you clean it off properly with alcohol. Soaps are better for washing away long-chain fatty molecules which can be balled up by agitation. Agitating the internal parts of any vape is always going to be tricky, and the THC molecule is relatively short chain, which is why alcohols which dissolve THC with minimal mechanical input are superior, so I would advise against any vape which can't take an alcohol clean. Not to mention the fact that THC dissolved in alcohol can be reclaimed, whereas it would b ill-advised to consume THC dissolved in soapy water.

You'd probably have to clean it way more often than the Mighty+ to avoid the type of build up that only alcohol can deal with.

One disadvantage of a convection only vape is that the temperature setting your device tells you it's set to will not necessarily be the temperature at the position of the flower. This is why you typically find that convection only devices go up to way higher temps than devices with conduction, to make up for the heat loss between the heating element and the flower. And generally, the temperature adjustment on the Tinymight looks horrifically fiddly, that would very quickly lead to sore fingers adjusting that multiple times per day imo. It doesn't even tell you the temp, it's just a bunch of settings between 1-10. Whereas the Mighty+ has a very precise and user-friendly temperature control and if you set it to 210, then your flower is actually experiencing damn near 210.

Could be handy in addition to the Mighty+ for situations where discretion and extreme portability is key, though perhaps not at that price point - but it's definitely no replacement for the Mighty+ in my opinion.

Ahh thank you so much, you have no idea how much I value your sound advice. I will stick with my Mighty+ and get two 1L bottles of IPA as you suggest.

Do you let the battery on your Mighty+ drain completely before recharging, or is it advisable to keep topping it up to full charge?

Out of interest, which Sativa strain(s) do you personally prefer for daytime use? I know you said Pink Kush is your go-to Indica for nighttime sleep, so I will be trying that one next time. Obviously I don’t know what symptoms you’re medicating, but for me I need a Sativa that will help with daytime pain but also be non-sedating, energising, cerebral, mood lifting, focusing etc – so that I can still get on with life and feel happier about it. I’ve got Moroccan Peaches but haven’t tried it yet (and am a little concerned that it arrived with a short date of 10/4 when there’s no way on Earth I will get through it by then considering my low tolerance). I also have a script for Queen Sangria for when it comes back in stock as the doc told me this was the best. The other one on my shortlist is Tangerine Boost. Any thoughts?

Also, and forgive me if I’ve asked you this already (I don’t find this forum very user-friendly), do you use humidity packs and should they be kept inside the jar the whole time until the bud has been used up?

Thanks again for all your help

 

[BudGuy]

Ahh thank you so much, you have no idea how much I value your sound advice. I will stick with my Mighty+ and get two 1L bottles of IPA as you suggest.

Do you let the battery on your Mighty+ drain completely before recharging, or is it advisable to keep topping it up to full charge?

Out of interest, which Sativa strain(s) do you personally prefer for daytime use? I know you said Pink Kush is your go-to Indica for nighttime sleep, so I will be trying that one next time. Obviously I don’t know what symptoms you’re medicating, but for me I need a Sativa that will help with daytime pain but also be non-sedating, energising, cerebral, mood lifting, focusing etc – so that I can still get on with life and feel happier about it. I’ve got Moroccan Peaches but haven’t tried it yet (and am a little concerned that it arrived with a short date of 10/4 when there’s no way on Earth I will get through it by then considering my low tolerance). I also have a script for Queen Sangria for when it comes back in stock as the doc told me this was the best. The other one on my shortlist is Tangerine Boost. Any thoughts?

Also, and forgive me if I’ve asked you this already (I don’t find this forum very user-friendly), do you use humidity packs and should they be kept inside the jar the whole time until the bud has been used up?

Thanks again for all your help

As with any lithium battery, the general advice is never to let it stay for too long in either a fully charged or fully depleted state, i.e. don't leave it like that for days at a time, and try to keep it between 20%-80% full for most of its life. Apart from that, you should be fine to use it however you please. Though to be honest I wouldn't waste too much effort on thinking about it, like I said S&B has a great repair service for swapping the batteries over after a few years if the degradation becomes noticeable, or if you're handy with a soldering iron you can do it yourself relatively cheaply, though it's ill-advised to mess around with lithium batteries unless you're quite competent with electronics.

I think you're mixing me up with someone else who might have mentioned about Pink Kush, etc. I've only been on MC since the start of the year, so I can't offer too much experience with strains and I'm not medicating for pain, but I will say that the Curaleaf High Silver definitely meets your requirements in terms of non-sedating/energising/cerebral/mood-lifting/focusing imo. It's a classic strain since the 90s, difficult to go wrong with it - it seems to be a staple around here, and it's certainly done the trick for me.

I wouldn't worry too much about expiration dates on your flower. I'd say clinics add them out of an abundance of caution, but the worst case scenario really is that your flower becomes slightly less potent over time, but it really would takes months for that to happen, especially if you're keeping it in a cool/dark place with a humidity pack in.

I do use the humidity packs, and the packs themselves can last for months/multiple jars worth of flower, so your best bet is to get those little pink/blue humidity indicators that you keep in the jar also. When they turn blue, you should replace the humidity pack. You can also feel the humidity pack solidifying over time, so when it becomes completely solid it's also ready to be replaced.