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[Fisserablemucker]

Don't you get waste on the knife, sorry i'm curious as I have only used hotknives

a little bit. but that goes into the next dab really. not an issue if using same strain. the terp slurpers slap you up in comparison to a normal banger and has a degree of control over it. its hard to explain without showing you, you can add more material during the inhale and slow down the flow of concentrate etc.

i went backwards. started on erigs puffco, dr dabber switch 2 etc. im now on old school manual dabs (with dab rite). way more efficient.

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Don't you get waste on the knife, sorry i'm curious as I have only used hotknives

ask away dude

 

[Ymmis]

I wonder how it will work, like I can substitute 10g of flower for a 1ml vape. Will it be the same for rosin? I'd happily use my full allowance on rosin and buy the odd bit BM weed

 

[GreenRed]

I only ever used a domeless nail on a bong, what's this knife business?

 

[Fisserablemucker]

I only ever used a domeless nail on a bong, what's this knife business?

for applying concentrate to a glass banger

 

[Dooby Doo]

for applying concentrate to a glass banger

Or a Utillian 6

 

[labaker]

i got myself a 25mm enail, 100% upgrade from butane in terms of temp control and material efficiency , obviusly 100% downgrade because zero portability (plug) but thats where im gunna be buying a v carta 2, those things look interesting, an slightly cheaper than the puffco's , i press some of my medical into rosin already. Happy Days!

 

[Muiredach]

I thought COA always has to be provided by the dispensing pharmacy when you request it, as they have to have it due to regulations?

No, we were recently prompted by an adolescent patient support group that their demand for COAs in related to oils used to threat paediatric epilepsy were rejected by the DHSC stating COAs aren't required to be supplied to patients whatsoever. Horrendous, we know.

If we were a big company with deep pockets, we'd try legally challenge the situation in courts - as informed consent has been a fundamental tenet of medical ethnics since Hippocrates ~2,400 years ago.

There is perhaps legal precedence hidden in case law which could demonstrate why COAs have to be provided, problem is, it'd cost a bucket load of money even to get a legal firm to research this whatsoever.

 

[Fiddlesticks]

No, we were recently prompted by an adolescent patient support group that their demand for COAs in related to oils used to threat paediatric epilepsy were rejected by the DHSC stating COAs aren't required to be supplied to patients whatsoever. Horrendous, we know.

If we were a big company with deep pockets, we'd try legally challenge the situation in courts - as informed consent has been a fundamental tenet of medical ethnics since Hippocrates ~2,400 years ago.

There is perhaps legal precedence hidden in case law which could demonstrate why COAs have to be provided, problem is, it'd cost a bucket load of money even to get a legal firm to research this whatsoever.

Lmao good luck arguing greek logic and reason such as Hippocrates in the current paradigm.
I might enter a defence by Diogenes plea.

Im glad you decided not to give any further money to lawyers. I know the team at MedBud does a lot to bring the different medical communities together.
We do owe a large amount of support to the adolescent communities that you mention as it was their campaigning that moved the debate to begin with.
I obviously operate in a different sphere to those being legit, however the law is an ass. I will do as I please until the law challenges me.
When the law challenges me then I will challenge it back.
Up till now for 45 years it seems to have realised to leave me alone. And so the unhappy truce continues.

 

[Muiredach]

Im glad you decided not to give any further money to lawyers.

We've never paid a penny to lawyers as it goes, we've graciously had pro-bono/free support in the public interest from Fieldfisher a couple of times, but I've also fought off 11 different legal challenges against MedBud myself so far - at least if I'm counting correctly.

The overriding point is, this is the kind of thing you need courts to decide upon, in order to change the status quo. We can argue with companies until the cows come home, but unless we can cite a specific ruling setting a new legal precedence, we're never going to get to the point of 100% COA coverage in the UK.

The testing/safety/lab data for all medicines should never be hidden from patients, but that's how it will remain unless a (winnable) case is fought through the courts,

 

[Dooby Doo]

We've never paid a penny to lawyers as it goes, we've graciously had pro-bono/free support in the public interest from Fieldfisher a couple of times, but I've also fought off 11 different legal challenges against MedBud myself so far - at least if I'm counting correctly.

The overriding point is, this is the kind of thing you need courts to decide upon, in order to change the status quo. We can argue with companies until the cows come home, but unless we can cite a specific ruling setting a new legal precedence, we're never going to get to the point of 100% COA coverage in the UK.

The testing/safety/lab data for all medicines should never be hidden from patients, but that's how it will remain unless a (winnable) case is fought through the courts,

Thankyou for that @Muiredach its opened my eyes to how some of the system works the way you have explained this.

 

[Fiddlesticks]

We've never paid a penny to lawyers as it goes, we've graciously had pro-bono/free support in the public interest from Fieldfisher a couple of times, but I've also fought off 11 different legal challenges against MedBud myself so far - at least if I'm counting correctly.

The overriding point is, this is the kind of thing you need courts to decide upon, in order to change the status quo. We can argue with companies until the cows come home, but unless we can cite a specific ruling setting a new legal precedence, we're never going to get to the point of 100% COA coverage in the UK.

The testing/safety/lab data for all medicines should never be hidden from patients, but that's how it will remain unless a (winnable) case is fought through the courts,

I havent devoted anywhere near enough of my time or energy, Let alone finances and soul into fighting the system or promoting things as you have. I hope you know how appreciative myself and the community are for that.
I am also greatful for the assistance you have had from pro-bono.
It does amuse me that you cannot get a company to put an ingredients sheet with a medical product and that to do so you need to fight through the courts.
We arent dealing with a secret sauce product. Also they are very much active ingredients not inactive ingredients?
Whatever the case is I think that this would come under existing regulation if this place fell under existing framework properly.
There is no need for futher legislation.

Food is done through FSA(Foods Standards Agency). Drugs through MHRA framework. Both require COA that are searchable on national databases according to data I can find.
What is it that we are consuming. Food or drugs? At the moment it seems neither if you cant get a COA. Thats what I mean by not falling under existing frameworks.
I know nothing about the industry however It has to fall under something.

 

[Dooby Doo]

I havent devoted anywhere near enough of my time or energy, Let alone finances and soul into fighting the system or promoting things as you have. I hope you know how appreciative myself and the community are for that.
I am also greatful for the assistance you have had from pro-bono.
It does amuse me that you cannot get a company to put an ingredients sheet with a medical product and that to do so you need to fight through the courts.
We arent dealing with a secret sauce product. Also they are very much active ingredients not inactive ingredients?
Whatever the case is I think that this would come under existing regulation if this place fell under existing framework properly.
There is no need for futher legislation.

Food is done through FSA(Foods Standards Agency). Drugs through MHRA framework. Both require COA that are searchable on national databases according to data I can find.
What is it that we are consuming. Food or drugs? At the moment it seems neither if you cant get a COA. Thats what I mean by not falling under existing frameworks.
I know nothing about the industry however It has to fall under something.

Could'nt agree more

 

[Delta 9]

So the biggest thing that black market and medical cannabis have in common is no COA provided to patients.
I take it COC certificate of conformity would be totally different then

 

[Dooby Doo]

So the biggest thing that black market and medical cannabis have in common is no COA provided to patients.
I take it COC certificate of conformity would be totally different then

Sorry I had to AI it, if correct it gives you a good understanding between the 2 bodies if you want to call it that

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Sorry I had to AI it, if correct it gives you a good understanding between the 2 bodies if you want to call it that

It should be just the one body that deals with all this in regulations and all that mill-ard-y, no wonder we are here in this position with all this. Its like good and bad to me no level ground