Pressing flower

[Dooby Doo]

Blue river terpenes were 1 of the first but the 1st i seen using and selling canna terpenes was them like £200 for 1ml and other crazy prices depending on profile /cultivar used but its good to see you can google cannabis derived terpenes and loads come up but going rate looks like £30 for 1ml.

Other terpenes will say botanically derived or like that live resin in medical terpenes site it said hemp derived but steam distilled cannabis derived terpenes you are wanting and never vape/dab Limonene at a high temp

That's the reason I like to vape Rosin at lower temps than with a blow torch, you burn away all the goodies.

 

[BriWoods]

See knowledge is key @Delta 9 . Thats why ive never rushed a main part of the process.

Yea the prices are different as steam distilled is an expensive process. Still trying to consider the price in my options.

5ml sample pack from hemp cdt is 45 doller or what ever it was compared to 30 quid for 1ml steamed cdt

Still ive not the bank roll to test it all out lol

 

[Dooby Doo]

See knowledge is key @Delta 9 . Thats why ive never rushed a main part of the process.

Yea the prices are different as steam distilled is an expensive process. Still trying to consider the price in my options.

5ml sample pack from hemp cdt is 45 doller or what ever it was compared to 30 quid for 1ml steamed cdt

Still ive not the bank roll to test it all out lol

It's the same with Vapourisers, it can be a bit of a mine field.

 

[BriWoods]

But were on the right path lol. To me the process of cdt's have the same outcome. And thats taste and smell.

As long as there clean of impurities. I wonder how different the end product of the 2 are infact. Let me have a quick look into that actually. Apart from the price whats the different end product

 

[BriWoods]

Good old ai

 

[BriWoods]

Cannabis-Derived Terpenes (CDTs) from Cannabis:
Origin: Extracted directly from the cannabis plant.
Flavor and Aroma: Provide an authentic and strain-specific flavor profile.
Benefits: May enhance flavors, potentially boost effects through the entourage effect, and offer a more nuanced experience.
Extraction Methods: Various methods like steam distillation, CO2 extraction, and other solvent-based techniques can be used, but CO2 extraction is often favored for terpene preservation.
Steam Extraction:
Method: Involves heating plant material with water to produce steam, which carries volatile oils, including terpenes, to the top of a distillation tank.
Terpene Retention: May degrade some terpenes due to the heat involved in the process.
Applications: Historically used for essential oil extraction, but may not be as efficient or precise as other methods for terpene extraction.
CO2 Extraction:
Method:
Utilizes carbon dioxide in a supercritical state as a solvent to extract oils, including terpenes, from plant material.
Terpene Retention:
Offers a cleaner and more controlled method that protects terpene profiles, resulting in pure, solvent-free oils.
Benefits:
CO2 extraction is a cold separation process that minimizes terpene degradation, making it a preferred method for preserving the natural terpene profile of cannabis.
Key Differences:
Source:
CDTs are derived directly from the cannabis plant, while steam extraction and CO2 extraction are methods used to extract terpenes from various plant materials, including cannabis.
Terpene Preservation:
CO2 extraction is generally preferred for better terpene preservation due to its lower temperature and pressure compared to steam extraction.
Flavor and Aroma:
CDTs from cannabis offer a more authentic and strain-specific flavor profile, while steam extraction may result in some terpene degradation and a less nuanced flavor.

 

[Delta 9]

But were on the right path lol. To me the process of cdt's have the same outcome. And thats taste and smell.

As long as there clean of impurities. I wonder how different the end product of the 2 are infact. Let me have a quick look into that actually. Apart from the price whats the different end product

Its all about source material like weed vs lemon peel or rose petals all terpenes have a usage at certain or below certain temps but to have the same terpenes added back in from a single strain cultivar is what ppl were paying a fortune for back in the day.

Its a blend that was intended selected other than blends of cdt/bdt/hdt but go for cdt either steam or co2 extracted.

Wading through the sites to see what is best will take time but it will be worth it

 

[BriWoods]

So reading the short bits i just have its just a matter or taste and smell

 

[BriWoods]

Its all about source material like weed vs lemon peel or rose petals all terpenes have a usage at certain or below certain temps but to have the same terpenes added back in from a single strain cultivar is what ppl were paying a fortune for back in the day.

Its a blend that was intended selected other than blends of cdt/bdt/hdt but go for cdt either steam or co2 extracted.

Wading through the sites to see what is best will take time but it will be worth it

Yea the co2/steam method from a cannabis plant would infact be a better option. I say better option there.

But not knowing what all the terpenes taste like from the 3 methods its hard to make a decision.
Questions. Could you tell the difference between the 3?
Whats the consistency like between the 3.
Which one would suit a vape care more effectively.

Just more and more questions. Without haveing discussed this with anyone these questions wouldnt have poped up in my brain. Thanks

 

[Delta 9]

So reading the short bits i just have its just a matter or taste and smell

original cultivar is the point and most heads will go down that route instead of fruit derived terpenes but hemp profiles not on same level as canna. So better taste smell original blend and it came from cannabis rather than hemp or fruits is the biggest selling point and going back to originality but that would just be me if i were doing all that but alot of heads see it that way but whatever works as everyone different

 

[BriWoods]

original cultivar is the point and most heads will go down that route instead of fruit derived terpenes but hemp profiles not on same level as canna. So better taste smell original blend and it came from cannabis rather than hemp or fruits is the biggest selling point and going back to originality but that would just be me if i were doing all that but alot of heads see it that way but whatever works as everyone different

That would be my way of thinking but im not producing to sell. Im trying to produce a product easily handmade to a good decent grade good enough and clean enough, for the average man.
Having looked into these terpenes a bit more, theoretically one might choose to experiment the 3 options of terpenes at once. But dam i need to make some doller first lol.

Still saving up for a good enough press. I cant spend to much on an experiment as i still need to buy my medication lol. But its good not to rush things

 

[Delta 9]

That would be my way of thinking but im not producing to sell. Im trying to produce a product easily handmade to a good decent grade good enough and clean enough, for the average man.
Having looked into these terpenes a bit more, theoretically one might choose to experiment the 3 options of terpenes at once. But dam i need to make some doller first lol.

Still saving up for a good enough press. I cant spend to much on an experiment as i still need to buy my medication lol. But its good not to rush things

Selling point i am meaning from their marketing point of view as in cdt is king over all rest and commands the most per ml price.

 

[BriWoods]

Well having had this discussion today ill get the 3 methods of terpenes all being cdt. Ill even aim for the same flavour and same bud to work with. No harm in comparison. Gives me an overview on what works best in my method of making a vape cart along with price as a factor, see whats the most beneficial end product in the long run for me.

Recommend a decent heated press anyone? Lol

 

[williemed]

This is the method I’ve been looking at. Can I link reddit posts here too? The trick on small batches seems to be decarb in a borosilicate glass synringe with a laur lock so you don’t lose loads to the jar. Cap it to decarb, then uncap, attach your dispensing needle and you’re away.

 

[BriWoods]

Ill give it all a read n a look. Ill end up trying no doubt one ive mastered 1 method lol

Ive seen that vid before tho its a good idea if you dont lose to much terpenes tho. Only downside is you need way more rosin, which in turn you need way more weed to press for a decent amount in a vape.

Thanks @williemed

 

[williemed]

Ill give it all a read n a look. Ill end up trying no doubt one ive mastered 1 method lol

Ive seen that vid before tho its a good idea if you dont lose to much terpenes tho. Only downside is you need way more rosin, which in turn you need way more weed to press for a decent amount in a vape.

Thanks @williemed

Shouldn’t really lose any in a sealed vessel. As I say for small batches people have found you can decarb in the syringe so it’s about as lossless a method as there is as far as I can tell just a bit more of a hassle setting up a 48 hour decarb station peace

 

[BriWoods]

Shouldn’t really lose any in a sealed vessel. As I say for small batches people have found you can decarb in the syringe so it’s about as lossless a method as there is as far as I can tell just a bit more of a hassle setting up a 48 hour decarb station peace

I still think you would need more weed pressed to make a full cart. I dunno, cant say without pressing lol. Someone has got to know on here. Share.... lol

 

[williemed]

I still think you would need more weed pressed to make a full cart. I dunno, cant say without pressing lol. Someone has got to know on here. Share.... lol

More weed to fill a cart compared to what? I’m confused

 

[GrownHealth]

I've moving this thread to off topic as it doesn't seem to be in the relevant section .

 

[BriWoods]

More weed to fill a cart compared to what? I’m confused

How much weed extract to fill a vape cart??
1g 1ml??