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Someone gave me a bud of the high silver many of you mention, put it in a single skinner. 5 minutes later went on a mad gardening spree for the last hour in the heat, wow that is a good strain for doing stuff on, no twitching either! And breathe...
 
Moon said:
Someone gave me a bud of the high silver many of you mention, put it in a single skinner. 5 minutes later went on a mad gardening spree for the last hour in the heat, wow that is a good strain for doing stuff on, no twitching either! And breathe...
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It's belting and if someone could come up with a decent fresh version it be great as I find it a top allrounder bit like Ian Botham :ROFLMAO:
Now time for the KMI mints after hours of shopping with my mummy 😅:ROFLMAO:
 
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Moon said:
So about to have my first of the day, and unusally for me i am going to try a Sativa Hybrid, curlaleaf High Silver. high hopes on this as a daytime med, and deep fear of getting that Sativa anxiety and rush, wish me luck!
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I really wish you well as it didn't agree with me at all ! 😵‍💫
 
node said:
I hope you have a peaceful night mate, I struggled today too, so yeah I'm looking at a 29er lol.
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I'm struggling getting to grips with the overwhelming amount of information when looking at Sativas, Indicas, THC, CBD, Terpines... I think I'm getting really confused over everything...! All I know is more than anything else, I want to sleep at night with a strain that kicks me in the ass ! I'm really trying to understand things and be knowledgeable but it may take some time... I'm current not working so don't have mega bucks and can't afford to keep having strains recommended that don't work..!

2nd Apt end of month @ Curaleaf

Help, please..?
 
JDVaper said:
I'm struggling getting to grips with the overwhelming amount of information when looking at Sativas, Indicas, THC, CBD, Terpines... I think I'm getting really confused over everything...! All I know is more than anything else, I want to sleep at night with a strain that kicks me in the ass ! I'm really trying to understand things and be knowledgeable but it may take some time... I'm current not working so don't have mega bucks and can't afford to keep having strains recommended that don't work..!

2nd Apt end of month @ Curaleaf

Help, please..?
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Sometimes it's best to take one step at a time I'd say and plenty of time to learn as you go along so back to basics sounds the best and cheapest way I'd say to start off ,also I'm not sure what is available on Curaleaf's formulary regards 4C Labs and other brands but I order from the lower priced stuff quite successfully .
The top one is £8.50/g and too expensive but the strain knocks me out ,the bottom one is £5/g and on the pot is actually 29.97%THC so strong in theory but I'm just trying it know and if it works for night time it's a bargain so I'll update here tomorrow (y)
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Grassroots™ LKH T29 L.A. Kush

LA Kush Cake is an Indica Hybrid strain that smells like vanilla and has an earthy peppermint taste.
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Canopy® KMI T28 Kush Mints

A flavourful bud crafted by Seed Junky Genetics, this Hybrid strain pulls evenly from her Bubba Kush and Animal Mints lineage.
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JDVaper said:
I'm struggling getting to grips with the overwhelming amount of information when looking at Sativas, Indicas, THC, CBD, Terpines... I think I'm getting really confused over everything...! All I know is more than anything else, I want to sleep at night with a strain that kicks me in the ass ! I'm really trying to understand things and be knowledgeable but it may take some time... I'm current not working so don't have mega bucks and can't afford to keep having strains recommended that don't work..!

2nd Apt end of month @ Curaleaf

Help, please..?
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Unfortunately what I seem to have learned so far in the medical cannabis market is that none of the things you listed are a reliable marker of anything, and the only way to know for sure is to try different strains until you land on what works.

I think most people agree now at this point that Sativa vs Indica is a useless classification for medical patients - might be useful for botanists. Having said that, I was searching the forum reviews for high THC% strains assuming that's where you'd find the heavy hitters for sleep, but if they were Sativa strains people tended to report them being energising instead of sleep-inducing, so the user reports seem to suggest there IS something to the Sativa vs Indica stuff. So still unsure on that myself.

I've seen people report 20-21% strains as very strong and 31% strains as very weak, and that's been my personal experience too. Super-G Citra at 29% felt less effective than 21% High Silver. Plus the % label on the pack can be subject to a +/- 5% swing in the samples that they take, which realistically probably means there could be non-sampled parts of the harvest that are +/- 10%, so yeah sometimes you might be vaping what is supposed to be a T29 and it's actually in reality a T23 or something. So I don't know if you can trust THC % to tell you anything meaningful either.

Then there's the much debated "entourage" effect which says THC isn't the whole picture and it depends on what terpenes you are mixing it with, but then there are literally hundreds of terpenes, many of which we know very little about, and they don't mix linearly, meaning if you find a strain that's 50% Limonene and 50% carophylline, it's not going to taste like a lemon with pepper, but in actual fact you end up with something like Farm Gas which tastes like burnt rubber and kerosene lol, and that nonlinear effect in taste and aroma probably carries into effects as well. There's infinitely many combinations of varying %s of terpenes. And then even with terpenes you might compare strain A which is 50% Limonene to strain B which is only 25% Limonene... but then what's rarely reported is the total terpene % of the strain (some do report it), so 50% Limonene on a strain that's only 1% terpenes ends up much less than 25% Limonene on a strain that's 3% terpenes.

Then there's countless other factors you might foolishly try to use like price, or country of origin, or manufacturer's reputation, or whatever. But that can be very complex too because what you think is one manufacturer might actually be sourcing their bud from lots of different growers in different conditions, etc. And pricing is more to do with supply, demand, expiration, shipping/packaging costs, etc, etc, than it is to do with how well the flower matches your needs.

And as much use as MedBud is, the information can go out of date quickly. What's true about one batch might not be true for the next, so you need to be careful on the dates of the advice you read here.

All that just to say I'm not surprised you're overwhelmed, I am too.

But maybe it will help to remind you that people have been using cannabis for its therapeutic benefits for thousands of years before anyone had the faintest clue what THC or terpenes were. All of the modern chemistry we're able to do that allows us to break this plant down into its constituent parts and analyse them in isolation is fantastic stuff, but the cannabis flower is not the sum of its parts so much of that analysis should really just be viewed as noise from the perspective of your average patient. Think about it, you don't go researching the chemical structure of penicillin every time the doctor prescribes you antibiotics. You take the medicine and if it works it works, and if it doesn't you work with your doctor to find alternatives and tweaks which do. There's no onus on you as the patient to become a fountain of knowledge of cannabis. There are geriatric pensioners out there who've never touched cannabis in their life starting to get prescribed on this stuff - you think they're sitting on MedBud comparing strains and watching YouTube reviews - some will be and they'll be along soon to chastise me, but most are not!! You can just sit back and relax and let the clinic do that work for you, as long as you're willing to be patient for those right strains to come along.

But from a patient advocacy point of view, yes, things need to change. You're feeling the need to become the expert because trial and error is expensive. But if trial and error was less expensive, you wouldn't feel this need to protect your wallet by becoming the Martin Lewis of medical cannabis. But it's not your fault for being overwhelmed by the information, it's their fault for making it so expensive that you feel the need to get involved with the information in the first place.

We need small 1g samples being issued to new patients to accelerate their journey to strains which work for them is needed. We need lower costs in general. We need clinics taking more data from their patients to find out, empirically, what actually works and what doesn't.

Unfortunately, until we get there, patients are going to go through what you're going through - and doubly unfortunately, with Curaleaf, the journey is not made any easier by their restrictive prescribing policies.
 
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Moon said:
Someone gave me a bud of the high silver many of you mention, put it in a single skinner. 5 minutes later went on a mad gardening spree for the last hour in the heat, wow that is a good strain for doing stuff on, no twitching either! And breathe...
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Perfect example of how different we all are - I feel very little difference at all with this strain..?! No idea what good it might have done for me physiologically but not for me at all....👎
 
BudGuy said:
Unfortunately what I seem to have learned so far in the medical cannabis market is that none of the things you listed are a reliable marker of anything, and the only way to know for sure is to try different strains until you land on what works.

I think most people agree now at this point that Sativa vs Indica is a useless classification for medical patients - might be useful for botanists. Having said that, I was searching the forum reviews for high THC% strains assuming that's where you'd find the heavy hitters for sleep, but if they were Sativa strains people tended to report them being energising instead of sleep-inducing, so the user reports seem to suggest there IS something to the Sativa vs Indica stuff. So still unsure on that myself.

I've seen people report 20-21% strains as very strong and 31% strains as very weak, and that's been my personal experience too. Super-G Citra at 29% felt less effective than 21% High Silver. Plus the % label on the pack can be subject to a +/- 5% swing in the samples that they take, which realistically probably means there could be non-sampled parts of the harvest that are +/- 10%, so yeah sometimes you might be vaping what is supposed to be a T29 and it's actually in reality a T23 or something. So I don't know if you can trust THC % to tell you anything meaningful either.

Then there's the much debated "entourage" effect which says THC isn't the whole picture and it depends on what terpenes you are mixing it with, but then there are literally hundreds of terpenes, many of which we know very little about, and they don't mix linearly, meaning if you find a strain that's 50% Limonene and 50% carophylline, it's not going to taste like a lemon with pepper, but in actual fact you end up with something like Farm Gas which tastes like burnt rubber and kerosene lol, and that nonlinear effect in taste and aroma probably carries into effects as well. There's infinitely many combinations of varying %s of terpenes. And then even with terpenes you might compare strain A which is 50% Limonene to strain B which is only 25% Limonene... but then what's rarely reported is the total terpene % of the strain (some do report it), so 50% Limonene on a strain that's only 1% terpenes ends up much less than 25% Limonene on a strain that's 3% terpenes.

Then there's countless other factors you might foolishly try to use like price, or country of origin, or manufacturer's reputation, or whatever. But that can be very complex too because what you think is one manufacturer might actually be sourcing their bud from lots of different growers in different conditions, etc. And pricing is more to do with supply, demand, expiration, shipping/packaging costs, etc, etc, than it is to do with how well the flower matches your needs.

And as much use as MedBud is, the information can go out of date quickly. What's true about one batch might not be true for the next, so you need to be careful on the dates of the advice you read here.

All that just to say I'm not surprised you're overwhelmed, I am too.

But maybe it will help to remind you that people have been using cannabis for its therapeutic benefits for thousands of years before anyone had the faintest clue what THC or terpenes were. All of the modern chemistry we're able to do that allows us to break this plant down into its constituent parts and analyse them in isolation is fantastic stuff, but the cannabis flower is not the sum of its parts so much of that analysis should really just be viewed as noise from the perspective of your average patient. Think about it, you don't go researching the chemical structure of penicillin every time the doctor prescribes you antibiotics. You take the medicine and if it works it works, and if it doesn't you work with your doctor to find alternatives and tweaks which do. There's no onus on you as the patient to become a fountain of knowledge of cannabis. There are geriatric pensioners out there who've never touched cannabis in their life starting to get prescribed on this stuff - you think they're sitting on MedBud comparing strains and watching YouTube reviews - some will be and they'll be along soon to chastise me, but most are not!! You can just sit back and relax and let the clinic do that work for you, as long as you're willing to be patient for those right strains to come along.

But from a patient advocacy point of view, yes, things need to change. You're feeling the need to become the expert because trial and error is expensive. But if trial and error was less expensive, you wouldn't feel this need to protect your wallet by becoming the Martin Lewis of medical cannabis. But it's not your fault for being overwhelmed by the information, it's their fault for making it so expensive that you feel the need to get involved with the information in the first place.

We need small 1g samples being issued to new patients to accelerate their journey to strains which work for them is needed. We need lower costs in general. We need clinics taking more data from their patients to find out, empirically, what actually works and what doesn't.

Unfortunately, until we get there, patients are going to go through what you're going through - and doubly unfortunately, with Curaleaf, the journey is not made any easier by their restrictive prescribing policies.
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I absolutely love this site already for the people who I've met so far and again, simply, wow, thank you so much for taking the time and baffling my head even more🤣 jokes ! I appreciate you - thanks !
 
Moon said:
Someone gave me a bud of the high silver many of you mention, put it in a single skinner. 5 minutes later went on a mad gardening spree for the last hour in the heat, wow that is a good strain for doing stuff on, no twitching either! And breathe...
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Hi ho silver, away!

Yes, it is a mover and doer, unfortunately not in the state it could attain since it's dragged into this world by Curathief instead of someone doing this fantastic strain justice with a decent grow
 
JDVaper said:
I'm struggling getting to grips with the overwhelming amount of information when looking at Sativas, Indicas, THC, CBD, Terpines... I think I'm getting really confused over everything...! All I know is more than anything else, I want to sleep at night with a strain that kicks me in the ass ! I'm really trying to understand things and be knowledgeable but it may take some time... I'm current not working so don't have mega bucks and can't afford to keep having strains recommended that don't work..!

2nd Apt end of month @ Curaleaf

Help, please..?
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Evening mate, sorry to hear - it does take quite a while to get there, really same advice as @GrownHealth + keep going. I'm always posting cheap strains and we'll try to help you as much as we can. Black Jelly is a strain thats sometimes £6.50 and knocks me out - it feels very strong to me... which is perfect for me. But plenty more here https://forums.medbud.wiki/threads/strains-for-insomnia-sleeping-sleep-noddybyes.1313/ add some to your planner in case they get discounted. Shout for more help if you need (y)
 
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JDVaper said:
I'm struggling getting to grips with the overwhelming amount of information when looking at Sativas, Indicas, THC, CBD, Terpines... I think I'm getting really confused over everything...! All I know is more than anything else, I want to sleep at night with a strain that kicks me in the ass ! I'm really trying to understand things and be knowledgeable but it may take some time... I'm current not working so don't have mega bucks and can't afford to keep having strains recommended that don't work..!

2nd Apt end of month @ Curaleaf

Help, please..?
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Do you know any strain names what you like mate
 

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