Industry Mislabelling flower by naming it after one parent cultivar!!

[GrownHealth]

 

[Delta 9]

I noticed it straight away with the jack at 27 % i think but they did say it was a cross, over 25% for old strains can but not always show a x or an exceptional dialed in cultivar , chemotype or chemovar can but not always show original profile top 3 terpenes and or obscure like nerolidiol so theres a signature to originality like Humulene for cheese?
What i find funny and a way to tell how amatuer producers can be is going to very very generic european seedbanks for reproductions thats just as bad as a cross or worse pure sh*te.
Saves them alot of money on a license for the original strains, could you imagine original cut procured from breeder with imput on dialling it in but theres corners to be cut n dough to b made.

 

[williemed]

Am I overreacting or how is this any different to if a codeine manufacturer was caught having been secretly mixing in 50% amitriptyline for the last 5 years? Crossing in a Sativa completely changes the chemical makeup and effects of the medication. If someone is prescribed a certain cultivar it is for a good reason. Otherwise they would just prescribe 'cannabis' and it would be lucky dip. It's one thing to grab "gelato" from seed stockers and feign ignorance, or indeed truly be that ignorant, or for some sort of accident to happen with labelling (though I have my suspicions there too), but it is another thing entirely to knowingly alter the product and not disclose it, or purposefully obfuscate the fact.

 

[Fiddlesticks]

Great post MedBud team sorry I am not active on twitter since I got banned in 2007 for being too funny for the world to cope with.

Thankyou for raising some of the things that bother me as well when consuming flower.
It might seem like a never ending string of grumbling sometimes however I am not a scrub and I do know the medications I have been using myself for the last 25 years+ and I know what things should be (just like most of the posters I love on this site), I am not unique. Indeed most the posters here demonstrate deeper knowledge than every streamer I can watch.
I welcome medical in every way and salute the people who have allowed me to get access to flower legally, however the battle isnt even half won with trying to protect patients and the medical aspect of the plant.

 

[OldBloke]

I agree 100%. imho MC genetics are very scrambled and mixed up, with everything in everything else it seems to me. As you know I started with amazing hash in 72, imho when all that ended (RIP) sometime mid 80s all Cannabis went downhill.

As soon as the Californians got the breeding and money bug the green was doomed in the manner I described. I had the pleasure of growing some real Maroc and Lebanese cultivars I collected and a real Kush or two before it was impossible to find as cheese and thai became the gods. . then the cookie/fruity/cakey thing began and I ducked out in favour of the best hash I could find and that was not so good.

Seeds of good old cultivars are available now, but they are often naturally low yield, loose structure and not suitable for the cash counters needs. They also contain a lot more of the "minor "cannabinoids and 1000 other chems we need, so there is the usual conflict. Profit V Customer/patient need.

Add to that the awful transportation, logistics and regulation load (all fossil fuel heavy ofc) and it's a surprise to me that any product is decent, which does happen!

 

[Delta 9]

I agree 100%. imho MC genetics are very scrambled and mixed up, with everything in everything else it seems to me. As you know I started with amazing hash in 72, imho when all that ended (RIP) sometime mid 80s all Cannabis went downhill.

As soon as the Californians got the breeding and money bug the green was doomed in the manner I described. I had the pleasure of growing some real Maroc and Lebanese cultivars I collected and a real Kush or two before it was impossible to find as cheese and thai became the gods. . then the cookie/fruity/cakey thing began and I ducked out in favour of the best hash I could find and that was not so good.

Seeds of good old cultivars are available now, but they are often naturally low yield, loose structure and not suitable for the cash counters needs. They also contain a lot more of the "minor "cannabinoids and 1000 other chems we need, so there is the usual conflict. Profit V Customer/patient need.

Add to that the awful transportation, logistics and regulation load (all fossil fuel heavy ofc) and it's a surprise to me that any product is decent, which does happen!

Being able to homegrow infact homegrown cannabis is maybe the biggest preservation of real old skool quality cultivars and chemovars there is.
The quality of cannabis over yield should take centre stage and keep the preservation of cuts. It might not be the old skool you would want but the genetics in uk being preserved from 80s 90s 2000s would surprise peeps, more has been lost than kept that makes me sad.

I think preservation of uk cannabis genes need to be protected and only way not to loss is push for homegrow. Uk genetics would dominate if allowed to be free.
Imagine we all pick a line and phenohunt for patient preservation and or we do a condition hunt, like epilepsy chemotypes, ms , migraines,cancer etc ye get the drift.

Empowerment should be pushed for rather than this merry go round of fake genes and commercial fuc*ery. They want orgs to be supportive of ukmc and NEVER an org that advocates for GYO. Their biggest thing for their status quo is US and the biggest thing for our GYO is US, Patient power.

 

[StationeryWilbury]

some very valid points here

 

[StationeryWilbury]

I guess it's up to the lawmakers to get off their lazy butts, there is no gap to bridge, they have been very wrong.

 

[S.O.H™]

I agree 100%. imho MC genetics are very scrambled and mixed up, with everything in everything else it seems to me. As you know I started with amazing hash in 72, imho when all that ended (RIP) sometime mid 80s all Cannabis went downhill.

As soon as the Californians got the breeding and money bug the green was doomed in the manner I described. I had the pleasure of growing some real Maroc and Lebanese cultivars I collected and a real Kush or two before it was impossible to find as cheese and thai became the gods. . then the cookie/fruity/cakey thing began and I ducked out in favour of the best hash I could find and that was not so good.

Seeds of good old cultivars are available now, but they are often naturally low yield, loose structure and not suitable for the cash counters needs. They also contain a lot more of the "minor "cannabinoids and 1000 other chems we need, so there is the usual conflict. Profit V Customer/patient need.

Add to that the awful transportation, logistics and regulation load (all fossil fuel heavy ofc) and it's a surprise to me that any product is decent, which does happen!

Bloody Orange interesting, thnx for very useful insight. Old 'The Foreman' Bloke and I mean this in a respectful and complimentry way.

Helping to know where we've come from, if we're to ever know where to go!

Boy, we are lucky mofos to ave u

OldBloke​

S.O.H™, 2026​

Edited because...

is it me or does this make u emotional. im tearing up here right now, nose is running too...? fink it might be my time of the month! This Laura Branigan music ain't helping, I can tell you that, but I stilllike it...