AVB Vape Carts

[joint_account]

Hi Medbuddies,

I came across a reddit thread last night (which I've now lost!) about a person who was using AVB to make vape carts, thankfully I saved the comment in my notes app. I have about 5z of AVB so I'm going to give this method a ago, potentially over the weekend. It's basically the same as making your AVB oils just with an additional ingredient.

Here’s the guide:

Steps:

1. Water-cure the ABV in a cafetière (rinsed repeatedly until the water came out completely clear).
2. Dry the ABV in the oven at 100 °C for around 20 minutes (a thin layer for a small test batch was used here; larger amounts might need more time or can be left to air-dry overnight with a gentle fan).
3. Place the dried ABV in a Kilner/mason jar and just barely covered it with 50/50 PG/VG mix.
4. Prepare a double boiler, bring the water bath to 80–85 °C, then submerge the lidded jar in it.
5. Keep it at 80–85 °C for 90 mins, stirring gently every 15-20 minutes and topping up water in the pan/slowcooker when needed.
6. Strain the ABV out of the infused liquid using a metal tea strainer (muslin/cheesecloth over a sieve works too). Squeezed the plant material hard to get every last drop, then bottle the liquid.
7. Use a clean oil dropper to fill unused carts.

Reported Results from the commenter:

Absolutely no smell at all, the guy that posted this said " Iblew it straight in my girlfriend’s face (she doesn’t smoke) and she smelt nothing".
- Almost no taste.
- Even though the stated ABV was very dark, heavily vaped at high temps via analogs, and mixed 60/40 with CBD flower, the final juice was ridiculously strong. As a heavy daily high-temp vaper:
4 puffs = felt it coming on,
6 puffs = thought “that’s decent” and stopped,

"5–10 minutes later I was completely wrecked – far higher than I bargained for. Genuinely shocked at the potency!"

if I find the thread again I'll post the link but I'm going to give this ago, hopefully this weekend and see what happens. I'm thinking it could be very handy for those nights where you cant sleep.

I shall post the results and how I get on with it all. Curious as to whether any of you maniacs have tried this with AVB?

 

[Lank72]

Hi Medbuddies,

I came across a reddit thread last night (which I've now lost!) about a person who was using AVB to make vape carts, thankfully I saved the comment in my notes app. I have about 5z of AVB so I'm going to give this method a ago, potentially over the weekend. It's basically the same as making your AVB oils just with an additional ingredient.

Here’s the guide:

Steps:

1. Water-cure the ABV in a cafetière (rinsed repeatedly until the water came out completely clear).
2. Dry the ABV in the oven at 100 °C for around 20 minutes (a thin layer for a small test batch was used here; larger amounts might need more time or can be left to air-dry overnight with a gentle fan).
3. Place the dried ABV in a Kilner/mason jar and just barely covered it with 50/50 PG/VG mix.
4. Prepare a double boiler, bring the water bath to 80–85 °C, then submerge the lidded jar in it.
5. Keep it at 80–85 °C for 90 mins, stirring gently every 15-20 minutes and topping up water in the pan/slowcooker when needed.
6. Strain the ABV out of the infused liquid using a metal tea strainer (muslin/cheesecloth over a sieve works too). Squeezed the plant material hard to get every last drop, then bottle the liquid.
7. Use a clean oil dropper to fill unused carts.

Reported Results from the commenter:

Absolutely no smell at all, the guy that posted this said " Iblew it straight in my girlfriend’s face (she doesn’t smoke) and she smelt nothing".
- Almost no taste.
- Even though the stated ABV was very dark, heavily vaped at high temps via analogs, and mixed 60/40 with CBD flower, the final juice was ridiculously strong. As a heavy daily high-temp vaper:
4 puffs = felt it coming on,
6 puffs = thought “that’s decent” and stopped,

"5–10 minutes later I was completely wrecked – far higher than I bargained for. Genuinely shocked at the potency!"

if I find the thread again I'll post the link but I'm going to give this ago, hopefully this weekend and see what happens. I'm thinking it could be very handy for those nights where you cant sleep.

I shall post the results and how I get on with it all. Curious as to whether any of you maniacs have tried this with AVB?

Have not, but with all the oil and edibles fun lately it did cross my mind, so it's great to see you sharing this.

Following with interest!

 

[joint_account]

Small update.

Last night I washed, dried and prepped 7g (6g after some losses) of AVB.

This morning I have the 50/50 PG/VG mix and the empty carts arriving from Amazon.

My main purpose here is to find an easy go-to consumption method that reliably puts me to sleep. I'm not to bothered about being high given thats how I make my AVB to begin with lol.

I'll check back in this evening, hopefully with a more in-depth update and some awesome results!

If it doesn't work, at least I have some PG/VG mix for some easy diy rosin carts.

 

[Lank72]

If it puts you to sleep and doesn't taste like shit, and probably costs 10% or less of what a MC vape cart does then it's got to be a winner all round

Excited enough for the both of us to hear how it goes

 

[HerbGaming]

now this could be something, got fair bit of ABV starting to build up, i was going to go the edible route, but this i like more something i could get behind.

thanks for sharing! good luck and eagerly waiting for your results

 

[joint_account]

An update! (But not the update y'all wanted).

The slow cooker is nearly done and I've realised I haven't got any more syringes or droppers. So I'm going to get it all ready and then I've got some coming with Amazon tomorrow.

I shall keep you posted on tomorrow's trials and errors!

 

[joint_account]

I DID IT!!!!
Turns out spoons made adequate makeshift syringe replacements. Who would have guessed it.

The flavour is very similar the EHD carts, just no flavour outside of that vape liquid creaminess you can get.

There's no smell here, I've just down the same smell test on my girlfriend and she couldn't smell anything at all.

I think I'm going to buy some terpenes to add to these, nothing crazy but I want to make it a more pleasurable experience of it ends up being effective.

The only thing I differed from the recipe with was to strain it with a strainer then through a single layer of cheeae cloth, followed by a double layer of cheese cloth. It got it really fine.

I'm going to puff on this throughout the evening and hopefully I have an amazing night sleep.

I am feeling something, little light and giggle which is very unlike me lol. I'll keep y'all posted.

6g flower, slightly covered in a pyrex jug with 50/50 is probably going to fill 6-9 carts.

 

[joint_account]

Morning update

So, I used it quite heavily last night and it's a weird feeling. There is a high but it's not the kind of high you look for.

It's a real in your head sleepy feeling, it gets you behind the eyes and it feels like it comes from the center of your head.

Very much slanted eyes at all times and heavily struggling to stay awake. You feel all of this with 5-10 minutes.

It comes on fast but goes fast as well, so imo if you started hitting this about an hour before you wanted to sleep you'd be golden.

My sleep problem isn't falling asleep, it's staying asleep. We all know THC fucks with your REM anyway but for me that's a good thing (dreaming is a no go for me). Point being I don't think you're ever going to beat the REM/THC issue.

That said, I often wake up feeling like I can get up and I really struggle to settle into a sleepy space again even if it's 2am, 3am, whatever.

Using the cart kept me feeling sleep groggy in those moments where I did wake up which made it far easier to go back to sleep.

This is no harshness here whatsoever. I didn't need to hit it when I woke up because I was still feeling the effects from before but if you did need to it would be incredible smooth.

If you've ever got that sleepy hit from eating your AVB, this is very similar.

For the cost of about £15 for the carts, syringes and 50/50 mix and then maybe about £15 for some terpenes if you wanted flavour. I think it's a cheap outlay that may reduce your MC intake in the evenings if you use it for sleep.

All in all a very easy, effective process. Id say it's much easier than making cannabutter as well.

For an idea on volume. By my maths 28g of AVB barely covered with 50/50 mix would work out around 30-36 carts.

I'm not a huge fan of eating cannabis, I need 200mg to feel anything and the taste can be a bit funky so this has been an incredible alternative for me.

As mentioned before, the smell is non-existent. The taste is non-existent also.

I'd thoroughly recommend doing this. They're going to replace edibles in my AVB like up entirely.

 

[MC Overgrow]

Thanks @joint_account, I’ve been reading these AVB posts and keep thinking nah leave it… you’ll blow yourself up..

Anyway I’ve now ordered the vg/pg liquid, dropper bottles & cheesecloth. Not going to wash the AVB and only using enough liquid to cover the AVB (40 to 50g) The AVB is all from T30 flowers.

Once prepared I will then be adding it in small amounts to my liberty flights blueberry vape tank .

 

[GreenRed]

Thanks @joint_account, I’ve been reading these AVB posts and keep thinking nah leave it… you’ll blow yourself up..

Anyway I’ve now ordered the vg/pg liquid, dropper bottles & cheesecloth. Not going to wash the AVB and only using enough liquid to cover the AVB (40 to 50g) The AVB is all from T30 flowers.

Once prepared I will then be adding it in small amounts to my liberty flights blueberry vape tank .

How long and how hot did you vape it?

I had good experiences with my "2mins at 175, 3mins at 207" routine, it vapes well and leaves enough in the AVB to work when eaten, but I found a few strains seem to completely burn out by this same amount of time and temp, while it works for most.

 

[MC Overgrow]

I’ve stopped switching between vapes and now I only use the mighty+. I take a couple of puffs at 165, 180, 195 and then 210 until little or no vapour. When I vaped with the pax3 the AVB was dark brown but it’s lighter with the mighty+.

Just to check as I don’t fully understand the chemistry but will the pg/vg pull out the THC? @joint_account how happy were you with the end results & is it worth it?

 

[MC Overgrow]

Update

The pg/vg arrived today.

40g of finely ground AVB in container covered with approx 150ml of pg/vg 50:50 liquid

Placed in warm water in the slow cooker outside in the garden room as not sure about odour.

Will check regularly and finish at about 9pm. Will then strain and leave overnight to extract as much oil out of the AVB goo in the cheesecloth.

Hope to provide a progress report tomorrow.

 

[joint_account]

I’ve stopped switching between vapes and now I only use the mighty+. I take a couple of puffs at 165, 180, 195 and then 210 until little or no vapour. When I vaped with the pax3 the AVB was dark brown but it’s lighter with the mighty+.

Just to check as I don’t fully understand the chemistry but will the pg/vg pull out the THC? @joint_account how happy were you with the end results & is it worth it?

Sorry mate, I've only just seen this!

Yes, the infusion should extract a lot of stuff left in the flower including remaining THC. You'd probably get more whacked off edibles if you're looking for a proper high but any CBN, CBG, etc. left in the flower are fantastic for getting you to sleep.

I'm really keen to see how you get on with your little experiment! It shouldn't smell or taste of much but I suppose that may also depend on if you washed it too.

 

[MC Overgrow]

Sorry mate, I've only just seen this!

Yes, the infusion should extract a lot of stuff left in the flower including remaining THC. You'd probably get more whacked off edibles if you're looking for a proper high but any CBN, CBG, etc. left in the flower are fantastic for getting you to sleep.

I'm really keen to see how you get on with your little experiment! It shouldn't smell or taste of much but I suppose that may also depend on if you washed it too.

I ended up adding more pg /vg liquid as the heating and mixing progressed. I have ended up with 120ml if e liquid from 200m initial volume. I’ve tried a tiny amount mixed with my regular blueberry e liquid and can feel an effect as I vape, a mild body sensation and light fuzzy head, nothing too drastic. Tomorrow I’ll purchase a new tank and vape it neat. I’ve named this extraction bananaberry Cookies as its AVB from GMO cookies / strawberry pave / banana gas.

 

[MC Overgrow]

 

[MC Overgrow]

I tried 1ml in a vape tank today. As expected, there is a distinct but tolerable burnt taste and a weird hash type aroma when exhaled.. the effect is very mild. I’ll be using this for weekend mornings with a strong dark coffee.